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Baby Girl, Sister to Brooklyn: London or Blakely?

Allison writes:

I am reaching out to you in dire need of some guidance. We are expecting our second sweet baby girl in less than 10 days. She is welcomed by big Sister Brooklyn Elizabeth. For the past 9 months I have kept myself awake at night making lists of names that I am hoping to fall in love with. I just can not get there….

We want a name similar in style to Brooklyn. We like different names but not too off the track. I tend to steer away from the frilly names simply because they do not match with Brooklyn. Our last name is very short with 3 letters and one syllable and rhymes with Pam. Therefore short names just seem blah with our last name.

My Husband loves the name London but I am not on board due to the theme with all ready having a place name. We both love the name Blake but have been told numerous times it is a BOY name. To soften the name we do like Blakely Evelyn or Blakley Rose or Blakely Noelle.

Other ideas:
Juliette
Emerson
Maguire (family name)
Blake
London

Names that are out due to a large family of girls:
Aubrey
Paige
Kennedy
Avery

I just wish I loved the name and was 100% sure I was going with the right choice. What are your thoughts on Brooklyn and Blakely or do you have any other suggestions for names that would work?

This 9 month pregger mom thanks you!!

 

Brooklyn and London work individually, but together are similar to having sisters named Rose and Violet, or Hope and Faith: you can definitely do it, but the theme would dominate.

Brooklyn and Blakely work better together, though that is a lot of sound repetition: both have B sounds, K sounds, and L sounds. When I say them together, my tongue trips and I end up with other combinations: Brookly, Blakelyn, Blooklyn, Brakely, etc. But of course that can be avoided by speaking carefully, and you’re looking for similar names, so if it’s between London and Blakely, I vote for Blakely. My favorite is Blakely Noelle.

With Brooklyn, I think my favorite from your list would be Emerson. Both Brooklyn and Emerson are somewhat unisex but used mostly for girls; they have a similar sound without repeating too many sounds; and both could shorten to nicknames (Brooke and Emmie). Emerson also reminds me a little of the sound of London.

I wonder if you would like Everly? Brooklyn Elizabeth and Everly Rose.

Or Emery. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Emery Rose.

Or for something more similar: Briarley. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Briarley Noelle.

Or Bailey. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Bailey Noelle.

Blair would be similar to Blake, but perhaps it’s too choppy with a one-syllable surname. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Blair Noelle.

Brielle is definitely more feminine, but I think the matching Br- sounds help tie the names together. Brooklyn and Brielle. I’ve only encountered that name in The Baby Name Wizard, but I can see it working in person.

Brinley seems like a strong candidate, though it does repeat a lot of sounds. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Brinley Noelle.

Maybe Kinley would work better. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Kinley Noelle.

Or Finley. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Finley Noelle.

Instead of Blake, you could consider Lake. Again, perhaps too choppy with a one-syllable surname, but Laken would lengthen it if Brooklyn and Laken aren’t too rhymey. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Laken Noelle.

Or Leighton? Brooklyn Elizabeth and Leighton Rose.

Or Larkin. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Larkin Noelle.

We know a Teagan, and it’s quite a cute name. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Teagan Rose.

Or Devany. Brooklyn Elizabeth and Devany Rose.

Baby Naming Issue: Emil

A. writes:

Oy. Swistle, please help! We have a beautiful 5-day-old, little brother to Arlo Otis, and I am not yet sold on the name we announced on day three. Our last name is Johnson Ronay, no hyphen.

The name we announced is Emil Thomas. I love the spelling. I love the name. But I do not think the spelling Emil, phonetically represents our chosen pronunciation of eh-MEEL. If I can not get behind it, how will I comfortable navigate the queries and support my son?

When Arlo was born, we had a list of five names, shared them with dear friends for feedback and waited until his birth to get a sense of what names fit him. We both came to Arlo easily and shared with family and friends after about two days of making sure it was a good fit. No regrets.

Fast forward to “Emil”. We had a loose list which included Emil, Lars, Severn, Pavel and the extra-adventurous Utah. Again, as easily as Arlo first came, so did Emil. As soon as he was lifted out of the tub to her chest, she felt he was Emil. Before our midwives left the house, I had almost called him Emil several times. When the house was quiet, we each confessed the name then planned to sit with it for a couple days. My brother Thomas was randomly in town day three and when he met the babe I felt some excitement to share the name, so we just did it. I have regretted it ever since. In my own mind I can hardly remember how to pronounce it… Is it “Ay-mull”, “E-mill”, “em-IL” or “EM-eel”.

I think we could help secure the pronunciation with going with the spelling Emile, but I do not like the look or potential for confusion with Emily.

When people ask his name, I am near meltdown. In my unscientific research, I have found that a hefty majority of people who do not have a French connection, or a Grandparent named “Ay-mull” or “E-mill”, go automatically to “eh-MEEL”.

I don’t know what to do. Can we just go with it? Will this haunt my child forever? A little effort to correct pronunciation or inform spelling seems okay in exchange for a strong name that can be taken around the world, but I do not want to be taking phonetic liberties.

Bonus is birth certificate is yet to be filed, in the event we scrap it and go with Pavel. Forever drawback is not listening to the “his name is Emil” that we both shared upon meeting him.

I welcome any and all feedback! Thank you kindly!

 

You say that “a hefty majority” of people pronounce the name Emil the way you’d like them to (and the ones who don’t are just more familiar with one of the other possible pronunciations), AND that you are near meltdown about it. I would think it would be the opposite: that you would be increasingly reassured by how many people say it the way you’d like them to. I’d pronounce it eh-MEEL too. (I’d have to look up how to pronounce Pavel. PAH-vull? PAY-vull? puh-VELL?)

Emile is no improvement: all it does is add EE-myle and eh-MYLE and Emily to the list of potential mispronunciations. Also, Emil is familiar to me as a boy’s name, but I’d be less certain about Emile in the United States. Here’s the 2012 Social Security Administration data:

Emil, F: –
Emil, M: 114
Emile, F: 6
Emile, M: 40
Emilee, F: 548
Emilee, M: –

Emil is a standard spelling; eh-MEEL is a standard pronunciation. You love the spelling; you love the pronunciation. What is it you’re still having trouble getting behind?

You have chosen a name that is uncommon in the United States, so yes, you are going to run into issues with pronunciation and spelling, as will he. This is part of the package deal when you choose an uncommon name, and presumably you are on board with that or else you would have named him Mason or Jason and had no trouble at all as long as he stayed in a country where those names were familiar. (Keeping in mind that a hefty minority of people spell my name Kristin or pronounce it Kristine even though it is Kristen; and I’ll bet right this minute someone is calling a Jason “Jayden” by mistake or spelling it Jayson; and don’t forget the endless hassle of the very popular Madelyn/Madeline. Pronunciation/spelling issues are not the exclusive domain of the less-common name.)

My diagnosis is that you are suffering from a perfectly normal post-naming freak-out. You gave the name a lot of thought, and you chose carefully. You did not say to each other, “We want to choose a name that will haunt our son HIS ENTIRE LIFE and require FULL PARENTAL SUPPORT for him to carry.” No: you chose a name you love, a name that fits him, a name you think will make him feel at-home worldwide.

It is normal to take a little while to feel comfortable with a new baby’s name, and it is normal to feel a little self-conscious about a name during the announcing phase. You will get used to pronouncing it, and so will everyone else. Leave the birth certificate blank for awhile longer if it makes you feel better, but it sounds to me as if the real naming ceremony has already taken place.

Baby Boy Pierce-see, Brother to Scarlett Jane

Raven write:

I’ve read your site for a while, but I never thought I’d have my own baby-naming conundrum. Here’s my information:

I’m Raven and my husband is Donnie and our last name is Pierce with a “y” tacked on at the end. We have a two-year old daughter, Scarlett Jane. We picked her name because it was a name that people are familiar with, but not one you hear everyday. We also liked the spunk of name.

We are now expecting our second baby (in January). This new baby was a surprise souvenir we brought back from a vacation to Australia. Whoops. We also just found out that it’s a boy and we are having a very, very hard time coming up with a name we love like Scarlett. We want something that 1) goes well with Scarlett and 2) is unusual, but not crazy.

If this baby had been a girl, we were considering:

Tallulah – we liked the spunk of this name
Matilda – this was a nod to Australia (the whole “Waltzing Matlida” thing)

Some boy names we like:

Arlo – probably my favorite, although I don’t love the way Scarlett and Arlo roll together into Scarlo – but that’s not a deal breaker.
August – mainly to get the nickname Gus. We like August, but think Gus is better, although I have reservations about giving a kid a name just to get a nickname out of it.
Dashiell – nickname “Dash”, although I’m afraid Dash might be translated into Douche later in school.

Other complicating factors: My husband is a Jr. and his family would love for there to be a Donald Peter III, but I just can’t do it. At one time, we had talked about naming the baby Henry and calling him Hank (my dad’s name/nickname), but I feel like it’s not fair to do that if I have already rejected the naming tradition from my husband’s side of the family.

We’re also at a loss for middle names. Basically, we are going to have a five-year-old unnamed child, unless we get some help!

Thanks for considering our question!

 

Since you considered the name Matilda if your Australian souvenir had been a girl, I thought I’d start by browsing the Wikipedia page on Australia, to see if there were any good name candidates for boys.

The current Governor-General of Australia is Quentin Bryce. Perhaps this would be like naming a child [insert name of a disliked U.S. leader here], but Quentin seems like it would go very nicely on your list. Quentin Pierce-see; Scarlett and Quentin.

There are a TON of island names to pick through, though those might be significant only if you’d spent time there. (Also, I’d check to make sure they were NICE islands, lest one be doing the equivalent of naming one’s child [insert name of a dangerous/ugly U.S. location here]. Still, just going through part of the list, I found:

Bowden Pierce-see; Scarlett and Bowden
Clark Pierce-see; Scarlett and Clark (similar to Arlo)
Duncan Pierce-see; Scarlett and Duncan
Falcon Pierce-see; Scarlett and Falcon
Houghton Pierce-see; Scarlett and Houghton
Hudson Pierce-see; Scarlett and Hudson
Shaw Pierce-see; Scarlett and Shaw
Thomson Pierce-see; Scarlett and Thomson
Wilson Pierce-see; Scarlett and Wilson

I hope our Australian readers can offer insights and suggestions for Australia-related names.

I like August, and I like the way it’s slightly reminiscent of Aussie. Austin might work well, too, though then there’s no Gus.

There is a wide range of opinion on this, but my own opinion on giving a child a name just to get a nickname is that it’s not only fine but also fun—as long as you don’t DISlike the given form. I understand the “Why give the child a name you’re never going to use?” point of view—but what I like is that I MIGHT/CAN use it if I later want to, as can the child. I like the “long form for the dignified resume/profession” concept, and I also like that if my child turns out not to be the Libby type I’d imagined, she can change to Liz or revert to Elizabeth. I also like that I was named Kristen and not Kris or Kristy or Krissy. With August, you have OPTIONS, is what I’m saying, and I think it’s fine to like the nickname better than the given name.

I had never thought of the word douche as a risk of the name Dash. I don’t think I’m thinking of it now, either, though it’s too soon to call it: with some connections, as soon as I’ve heard of it I find it hard to forget. This one doesn’t have that “Crud, now the name’s been ruined for me” feeling to me, though: Dash still makes me think of a short enthusiastic run. Perhaps it’s that vowels don’t interchange as easily as consonants, since changing vowels doesn’t result in rhymes? I think of issues with Cooper and Tucker, but I don’t think of Rob sounding like rib or rub or rube or robe. But then, I’m not a middle school boy. …Wait! I have two of those in residence! I asked them (and also Paul) if they could think of anything to make fun of about the name Dash, and they came up with nothing I consider a problem (“It rhymes with crash!” “It’s the name of the kid in The Incredibles!”). After giving them awhile to think, I told them the word we were concerned about—and they all entirely brushed it off. Paul: “Oh! *scoff sound* No. Definitely not.” Rob and William: “What? No! I wouldn’t think of that!”

A possibility for dealing with the Donald Peter III issue without continuing the tradition is that you could use the same initials: Dashiell Preston Pierce-see, for example. This depends on whether your husband’s family is the type that would consider this a gesture of goodwill or not.

Or you could use either Donald or Peter as the middle name. Or both: August Donald Peter Pierce-see. That sends a much stronger message of goodwill, and would be the kind of compromise I might have gone with if Paul’s family had had a naming tradition.

Or, if you did name him Henry/Hank, you could spin it: Instead of naming him for one grandfather, you’re naming him for the other. Or: your husband’s father has already had someone named after him, and now it is your father’s turn. It’s not a rejection of your husband’s side of the family, any more than naming him Donald Peter would have been a rejection of your side of the family. A combination such as Henry Peter or Henry Donald might make it even clearer: this is a merging of families, not an absorption of a female member into a male family line. He’d be “named for his grandfather and his father,” just as he would have been if he’d been named Donald Peter, but one of those two people would be from his mother’s line instead of both from his father’s.

The more I think about it, the more I think using Donald or Peter for the middle name might significantly cushion the blow of not having a III, as well as solving the challenge of finding a middle name. If the flow isn’t right, Don would be another option.

Baby Boy Plate: Jace?

Tawny writes:

My husband and I are expecting our first child A BOY on 1/3/14. To date we have lost 3 babies so in reality this baby may be our only child. My name is Tawny and my husband is Jeremy and our last name is Plate….yes like you eat off of. I love the fact that my name is unique and have been obsessed with baby names since I was a child. The fact that I may only be able to choose one name for a child is heartbreaking for a name obsessed mom to be. Naturally I tend to lean to the more unique names just because I don’t want my child to be so and so “P”. My husband on the other hand could care less. Herein lies my problem. I have been looking for a name that is unique like mine and that will wear well over time. I don’t LOVE anything just yet and so far nothing I have come up with has appealed to my husband. He has landed on the name Jace and LOVES it. I am not sold. Here are my concerns:

#1 – Jace Plate sounds way to short. I feel like his first name needs to have more than one syllable. I just cannot imagine yelling “Jace Plate!!” up the stairs. I feel like it is a bit of a tongue twister.

#2 – I am worried that with the popularity of the show Duck Dynasty I will get “Oh you named your child Jace like on Duck Dynasty!” I know Jace and Jase (Duck Dynasty) are spelled different but it’s still the same name.

#3 – Because of Duck Dynasty is Jace on the rise in popularity….will my child be Jace P in school? Jace was #86 on the Social Security Baby Name list for 2012.

Am I crazy? Do you have any suggestions on something like Jace that would appeal to both of us?

Thanks…..desperate and feeling like giving in :(

 

I agree that Jace Plate doesn’t quite work. It’s not just the number of syllables, it’s also the repeating long-A sound, and the way it brings “faceplate” to my mind. I don’t think it would be awful, however, and likely you’d yell just “Jace!” up the stairs (or “Jace, dinner!” or “Jace, did you do your homework?”). So that’s the first option: shrug, and go with it.

I do think we’ll see Jace/Jase get more popular, yes. It has an appealingly cool and current sound, and yet its similarity to the very familiar name Jason keeps it from seeming weird.

A second option is to use Jason, and nickname him Jace/Jase.

A third option is to use a similar name. Most of these solve only the Duck Dynasty issue and not the one-syllable/two-long-A issue (some, such as Grey, even make that issue worse by ALSO making it two word names), but they could be starting places for other names: Case could be short for Cason, Grey could be short for Greyson, Gabe could be short for Gabriel, etc.

Ames
Blaise
Blake
Bryce
Cade
Case
Chase
Dane
Drake
Gabe
Gage
Grey
Hayes
James
Keane
Rhys
Shane
Tyce
Zane

A fourth option is to use the initials J.C. and get Jace out of that, sort of. This gives you an additional layer of distance from Duck Dynasty, and also gives you more name/nickname options—as well as the chance to use up more of the names you like. For example, if you name him Jameson Carter Plate, you have not only Jace but also J.C., Jamie, “Jameson Carter, you get down from there RIGHT NOW,” etc. If you name him Jaxon Charles Plate, you have not only Jace and J.C. and Jaxon but also Jax. Jasper Colby Plate. Judson Cyrus Plate. Jonathan Curtis Plate. Jericho Cassius Plate. Jeremy Carson Plate.

A fifth option is to use Jace as the middle name, where its similarity to your surname won’t come up so often, but where you still have the option to use it if you want to. This may mean sacrificing whole-name flow—but in my own experience, I said my kids’ whole names only while I was pregnant, and never afterward. Something like Dashiell Plate, Gideon Plate, Sebastian Plate, Everett Plate, Kieran Plate, Malachi Plate, Griffin Plate, Ezekiel Plate, Darian Plate—and then Jace tucked comfortably in the middle.

Baby Girl Hudson: Louise, Beatrice, Eleanor, or Julia?

E. writes:

Our first baby is due in four weeks and we’re still mulling over a name for her.

Our surname sounds very similar to “Hudson” with one letter off.

We have a few girls’ names we really like but are trying to find the right combination. We tend towards classic, not-too-common names.

First names we like:

Louise (my husband and I met in New Orleans, Louisiana; we’d use the nickname Lou), Beatrice (love the nickname Bea/Bee), Eleanor (Ella), Julia

Middle names we like:

Victoria (my husband’s mother’s name), Rose (my grandmother’s maiden name), Louise.

My husband really likes the combination of Eleanor Louise – but I’m concerned that Ellie/Ella are too popular and that it’s too many L sounds in the name. He also likes the name Katherine, but my concern is that a well-known Kate Hudson exists in the world already.

I like Beatrice Louise or Louise Victoria – but wondering if the expression “geez Louise” is an obstacle and if “Lou Hudson” is too masculine?

One other consideration is that our dog is named Lucy so yelling Louise/Lucy could get confusing.

Thanks for the help!

 

I think “Geez Louise” is fine; I don’t think many people say it anymore, and I find it appealing rather than off-putting. I can picture using it with the child, when I want to scold her but very lightly: “Geez Louise, your ROOM!”

I don’t think I’d worry about Lou Hudson being too masculine: if she doesn’t like that, she won’t use the nickname, or she’ll use Lou-lou/Lulu instead. And if she does like it, she might REALLY like it: there are a lot of people specifically looking for feminine names with boyish nicknames (Samantha/Sam, Charlotte/Charlie, etc.).

Eleanor Louise sounds great to me—not too many L sounds.

The Kate Hudson connection would bother me too. I think Katherine would work great as a middle name, though. Eleanor Katherine is very pretty, or Julia Katherine.

The dog-name confusion, if it turns out to be an issue, will not be…er, permanent. And you might find you use a different tone of voice with the dog than with your child, and/or that it is funny and cute the way the dog always comes trotting over when you call Louise to dinner, and/or that you enjoy saying “Lucy and Louise, let’s go on a walk!”

Looking over the firsts and middles, I’m hardly even inclined to make any combinations: it feels like a “can’t go wrong” pair of lists. I like all the ones you mentioned (Eleanor Louise, Beatrice Louise, Louise Victoria), and also:

Beatrice Rose
Beatrice Victoria
Eleanor Katherine

If I were forced to choose, I think my top choice would be Louise Victoria. I lean toward the name Louise if you want something less common, since both Eleanor and Julia are enjoying popularity right now; I also love the name for itself, and I like its connection to you and your husband. I also like Beatrice: I have Beatrix on my own list, and a large part of it is how much I would love calling her Bee and purchasing bee things.

I feel very drawn to Eleanor Katherine and Eleanor Louise. My only concern with those is the way Eleanor and Ella are moving so quickly up the popularity charts. I’m not concerned about the current popularity of the name Eleanor (it was at #135 in 2012, which is still quite uncommon), but if popularity is one of your main preferences I would be nervous about steering you toward it in case it continued its upward path. And Ella was #12 in 2012—nearly Top 10.

One option that combines Ella and Louise is Eloise. I like Eloise Katherine, or Eloise Victoria.

Would others like to pair up some combinations? Here are the first names:

Louise
Beatrice
Eleanor
Julia

And here are the middles:

Victoria
Rose
Louise
(and I added Katherine)

Baby Naming Issue: Baby Name Regret 5

A. writes:

I’m a new father writing to seek some advice, or perhaps consolation, for my baby name regret I am suffering over my 4-month-old son.

His name is Dean. My wife and I named him after my maternal grandfather, who is still alive and lives three hours away from me.

Here’s the catch.

My grandfather spells his name Deane.

In the beginning we talked about family names (although this is not necessarily a tradition in our families) and both liked the name Dean, agreeing that it met our guidelines for being short, masculine, unique and not trendy. We both agreed we liked the more common spelling (“Dean” without the extra “e”.), in large part because our last name is so frequently mistaken for a similar-sounding surname. We figured it would be best to keep spelling as simple as possible.

While I’m not terribly close to my grandfather, he is someone I admire, having been a great husband to my grandma and family man. In other words, he’s an excellent candidate for naming your son after.

Momentum just rolled toward the name Dean. As time wore on, however, I grew worried about how my grandfather would respond to the spelling change. I think I mostly kept the anxiety to myself. Then, when my wife was 8 months pregnant, I suggested we spell it “Deane,” like my grandfather, or consider another name. This angered her greatly. She had fallen in love with the name Dean, and was also firmly opposed to spelling it Deane. She got feisty. I back tracked and submitted.

The next day, at my wife’s suggestion, I called my mom to talk it over with her. My mom told me that Grandpa wouldn’t care and that “your grandpa would probably prefer his grandson not bear the burden of having that extra “e” on the end.” She said he had grown tired of being called “Deanne” and “Deanie” by people who didn’t recognize the name. (He also regularly gets mail for Deanne).

So we agreed to Dean. On the day he was born, I had a lot of anxiety (which I kept to myself).

For the record, no one in the family has said anything bad. My grandfather has been very understanding (at least outwardly) and has shown no sign of disappointment. He regularly asks my mom about “Little Dean” and says he enjoys receiving photographs. In fact, after a day where he was called “Deanne” one too many times, he told my parents “I’m so thankful that my great-grandson doesn’t have that “e” on the end.”

Still, I continue to have the same fears I did beforehand, that:

1) We were jerks and bad family members for even considering changing the spelling in the first place because using a family name is so sacred.

2) We somehow insulted my grandfather by not going with the original spelling. (I imagine that after a lifetime of having to remind people that you have an “e” on the end of your name, the ultimate insult is when your great-grandson is named after you, but without the “e.” My mom says that I am wrong here.)

I coped for the first three months. But lately it has caused me enough torment that I sank into depression and am in therapy for it. It’s the only thing I can think about and it keeps me up all night long. I simply can’t sleep. It’s such an awful thing to second guess your son’s name around the clock. Especially when he is named after your own grandfather and you bear so much guilt over it.

My wife says changing the name in any way is out of the question and that I am being irrational. Otherwise she has been very supportive and has put up with a lot of grief.

I don’t know what to do, and his full name, which I am declining to reveal, lends itself to no obvious nicknames.

and

I have a rather severe case of baby name regret, but the name cannot be changed. I could write a novel on my name regret. I’ll spare you most details except that the child is 9 mos old and he is named in honor of my 86-year-old grandfather.
The regret has caused me all sorts of guilt, feelings of failure and mental anguish, which my wife and I are trying to work through.

I’ve done some online research on “name regret,” which is how I found your website. Most of what I have read on your site and others are accounts of women who experienced acute name regret, perhaps as a result of post partem depression, and got over it once the depression lifted. I’ve also seen accounts of women who changed the child’s name and were very relieved. But I haven’t seen any accounts of women who kept the name and just learned to live with it, even if they didn’t like it. (Perhaps because no one wants to admit publicly that they don’t like their kid’s name.) I’ve also yet to find accounts of men going through this, which makes me feel rather alone.

In your blog experience, have you ever spoken with parents who were able to put their regret behind them and just learn to live with it? If so, what was their experience like.

I worry that this is going to haunt me forever. I hope that when he is 5, I’m not still living in regret.

I would love to hear that other parents went through this too and that eventually it passed and they were able to cope with it.

Thanks for any consolation you can offer.

 

In my experience, name regret is rarely about the baby’s name. If you’ve examined my site as well as other sites, you HAVE read posts where the parent got over it, and you HAVE read posts where the parent just learned to live with it, and you HAVE read posts where the parent changed the name and the change did not bring relief—but you have found reasons to disregard them all. You’re thinking that if you were to find the perfect post that reflected your exact situation, THEN you’d feel better, but I think that’s a false goal: if you did find a post reflecting your exact situation, you would find a reason to disregard that as well. Let’s say you found a post by a man talking about his agonizing regret and saying that he then learned to live with the name—how would that help you learn to live with it? What if you found a post by a man who had NOT learned to cope? Would that help you? Why?

I remember your first letter. You gave your son the right name on many levels and for many reasons, and everyone thinks so except you (including your grandfather, who would have hated it and perhaps even felt guilty if you’d used the other spelling he hated so much). If everyone important to you is telling you you absolutely did the right thing, will it help to have a stranger say the same thing? If so: You did the right thing. If you had named him Deane, you would likely be going through the exact same crisis now, wondering if you should have named him Dean.

With issues of this sort, the usual suggestion is not for the person to try to stop thinking about it (“trying not to think about it” = useless), but instead for them to focus their attention on something else. Focus on your darling son, whose name could be Carrot for all that matters. Focus on your wife, who has spent her first 9 months as a mother babying you as well as her baby. Focus on your grandfather, who has been honored and has specifically said he’s relieved you didn’t go with the other spelling. If you must, turn your attention briefly to larger depressing matters, to give you a sense of how truly unimportant this issue is in the big picture. Many people find some relief with volunteer work.

Or try thought exercises. Let’s say you have given him the worst possible name. You haven’t, but let’s pretend for a moment that your worst fears are realized and you REALLY DID GIVE HIM THE WRONG NAME. Now realize this: it STILL doesn’t matter. It’s just a name. Names are not “sacred”; names are collections of sounds used to help us tell people apart. Your grandfather didn’t spell his name Deane; his PARENTS spelled it Deane—to his lasting inconvenience and irritation. No one thinks taking away the disliked/inconvenient E is “the ultimate insult,” and why would they? If you wanted to insult your grandfather, and you thought long and hard about the absolute best way to show him your intense scorn and dislike, would you have done it by naming your son Dean? Did you chuckle evilly as you filled out the birth certificate, saying, “THAT’LL show the old man how much I despise him!!”? No.

In my own struggles with misplaced anxiety, I have found it helpful to imagine that someone is coming to me with the same problem I am having. Imagine reading your own letter, written by someone else: this other man’s grandfather was named Frances, but he’s named his son Francis because that’s the traditionally male spelling and his grandfather always hated his name spelled with the E and wished his name was Francis. Now he’s worried he’s basically stabbed his grandfather in the back and then poured in some acid to make sure he REALLY felt the wound, even though in real life the grandfather wiped his brow and expressed relief that his grandson went with the right spelling. Would you agree that the writer should be in such agony? Would you agree that in a situation where nothing can be changed, the people involved can productively spend their time feeling horrible about it?

I have also found it useful to ask myself this question: “What is it you WANT?”—and then to ask myself why I want it and whether I can have it. It sounds to me like what you want is to go back in time and use Deane instead of Dean, AND for that to be what everyone else (your grandfather, your wife) wants too. The reason you want it is that you think it’ll make you feel better, and the answer to whether you can have it is no. Or do you want to read your grandfather’s mind, so as to be reassured that he REALLY DOES think it was best to name your son Dean? You can’t have that, either. Do you want to be individually reassured by every person on the planet that you did the right thing? No again. Is there anything you want that you CAN have? Aim for those goals.

Think of all the countless generations that have come before you, since the time humans started referring to each other by name. Think of all the women who have married men whose families had naming traditions, and all the parents who got bullied into using a name they didn’t want to use. Think of all the situations where you can tell there had to have been serious compromises: a child is named Richard but called Jack, or named Edgar but called Jason. Believe me when I say that you are not the only one who didn’t/doesn’t like his or her child’s name. Some people HATE their children’s names, and of course they don’t discuss it: they don’t want to hurt the child’s feelings. They know the child is more important than the name.

It doesn’t matter if your son’s name doesn’t lend itself to a nickname. Call him Buddy. Call him Partner. Call him Sport. Call him Little Guy. Call him Honey. Call him Sweetie-muffin. Call him Son. Call him Ol’ Blue/Green/Brown-Eyes. Call him Lovey. Call him D. Call him Captain McStinkyBritches. Call him anything that rhymes with what you’re saying to him (“Let’s go, Joe” and “Time for school, McCool”). Call him Biscuit. Call him Bear. Call him Bean. Call him Cheeks. Or call him Dean/Deane, because they’re identical when said aloud.

If it helps, imagine that you didn’t name him after your grandfather. No, you just named him Dean because you and your wife both loved the name and agreed on it. And, coincidentally, how nice: the name has a very positive association for you because it reminds you of your grandfather’s name.

I too hope that you are not still living this way when he is five. As a parent, one of your biggest challenges will be keeping things in perspective. There will be many, many opportunities in your son’s life for you to be wracked with guilt and uncertainty, and many, many opportunities for you to cope with situations where a decision (either yours or someone else’s) is not changeable and your only option is to brush your hands together briskly and say, “Welp, I guess since we can’t go back, we have to start from where we are!”

But let me tell you this, and I want you to listen to me carefully: You gave him the right name. AND IF YOU HADN’T: it would still be absolutely fine.

Baby Naming Issue: How Do You Know if You Love a Name?

Allyson writes:

How do you know if you LOVE a name versus thinking you love a name? Sort of like when you’re 13 you LOVE your boyfriend but your parents know it’s puppy love and in another couple of years you won’t even remember his name? My husband and I are trying for #2 soon. We thought we had a boy name picked out – Colton – but I’m over it. It’s just very blah to me now. We have another boy name picked out (Tucker), but I don’t know if I love it….or if I love it right now and in 10 years will wish I had chosen something else. Or first son is Barrett, a name I stumbled on before I was even pregnant. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.

Oh, and if you have any names in the Barrett – Colton – Tucker genre I’d love to hear those as well. Or last name is Clark so it wipes out some of my favorites (like Blake and Cole).

Thanks!

 

“How do you know if you love a name?” is a question I’d answer in this case with another question: How did you know with your first son’s name? For some people, they know they love a name when they feel like they can’t let it go; for other people, the name feels like it clicks into place; for still others, they know when no other name seems better. And some people never DO know: they run out of time and have to choose one of several good options.

It’s true that some parents later regret a choice—but in most cases, putting the name on the birth certificate seems to freeze it into place. We’d chosen a girl name for our first two pregnancies (both boys), and when we actually had a girl we no longer wanted to use the name—but if we’d had a girl earlier and HAD used the name, I don’t think we would have become similarly bored with it. Once you use the name, it gets linked firmly to the child: the name is no longer “a name,” it’s “this beloved person.” If there are any regrets about the name, they tend to be minor and have more to do with things other than the name itself: for example, a family may regret that a name got so popular or wish they’d loved something less popular, but that doesn’t mean they would actually like to choose a different name for the child.

It’s nice that there’s typically a period of time (during pregnancy, or while waiting for a child to be adoptable) for trying out names before the final decision needs to be made. I found I had several names that rose to the top during the choosing process and then fell right back down—puppy-love names. Or I had names that I would have thought pre-pregnancy would be contenders, but as soon as an actual baby was on the way, the names didn’t feel right anymore. Other names endured—which is not to say I never had doubts (in the hospital I was still fretting about my daughter’s name, and I wish we’d known a name we used for one of our sons was Top 10 in our state even though it was in the 30s nationally), but rather that the name lasted long enough for me to be fairly sure it was at least on the list of names that would be good choices for the baby.

Two of my favorite surname names are Wilson and Miller. Similar to Tucker (but with fewer potential word-confusion issues) is Turner. Similar to Colton are Colter and Coleman and Colby and Lincoln and Nicholson and Keegan and Collins.

Baby Boy (R)othwell

A. writes:

My husband and I desperately need some help. Our last name is (R)othwell, and we are having our first child, a baby boy, due July 31st. Yes, that is 3 short weeks away!

We are really struggling with finding a first name. The middle name we chose is Steven, after my husband. I know you recommend not choosing a middle name first, but it is kind of a tradition on my husband’s side.

We do have a few names we agree on, but none we love. We can’t even get to a stage where we argue on them. Here are the ones we like currently:

Brady
Brenner
Brice

There is absolutely no reason why those all start with the letter B, just a weird coincidence. In fact, I am a little worried that if we choose one of those, his initials will be BSR. Is that bad? Will kids call him a bull-sh*t-er? Or am I over-thinking that?

As for the above names, is Brady too popular? I don’t know any personally, but I think it’s pretty high up on the popularity charts. And I really like the name Brice, but I’m just not sure if its right for us; I can’t picture myself saying it. Then there’s Brenner, which I have only ever heard of once. Is that okay? My hard rules for a name include that it be easy to spell if heard, and easy to say if read. Does it pass your uncommon name test?

Other names we have liked but discarded for one reason or another:

Micah
Wyatt

We actually like Wyatt, but I feel like if my son had a lisp, this could be an issue – Wyatt (R)othwell = Wyatt Wothwell…what do you think? I am staying away from all W names and all R names for the same reason, they just seem harder to say correctly. For example, Reed (R)othwell = Weed Wothwell with a lisp. And no, neither of us have a lisp, so I don’t know why I worry about it so much. As for Micah, I don’t like the nickname Mike, so I worry people will shorten it to that. Thus, I took it off our already short list. Plus, it seems to be a girl name, too, of which I’m not a big fan.

If we had a girl, the choices for her first and middle names would be:

Leila Ritchie
Leila Marie
Malia Ritchie

I am from Hawaii, though we live on the mainland now. I seem to only like girl Hawaiian names. These are easier to say and spell than many boy ones, so that’s probably why. Also, Ritchie is a family surname on my husband’s side.

Overall, we are avoiding really traditional names, and really uncommon ones (no Apple here). I also feel like we shouldn’t choose a first name that ends in an -en, -on, -an, etc, because of the middle name Steven. Do you agree? Meanings aren’t super important to us. I am not drawn to feminine boy names either. I do realize that I am sounding extremely picky, but I don’t want us to make the wrong choice! We plan on having two children.

Thank you so much for your help, I’m starting to panic since we haven’t been able to make a decision yet. The due date is so soon! Looking forward to seeing your suggestions.

 

When I read this the first time, I got to the part about the initials BSR and I thought, “Oh, I wonder if that’s a band or a brand or something?”—and then I got to “bull-sh*t-er” and STILL didn’t see it. Then, I had the letter in my name-blog spreadsheet, and I’d noted “BSR initials a problem?”—and I couldn’t remember what the problem was without re-reading the email. So I’d scratch that worry off the list.

I think I would also scratch off the worry about lisps, if you can: there would be so many speech impediments to allow for, and a child saying his own name wrong is a huge crowd-pleaser. If the name feels hard to say even without a speech impediment, though, I might cross it off.

I’d take the “ending in N” issue on a case-by-case basis; some combinations might sound bad to you, and others might sound good.

Brady is a moderately popular name: it was the 136th most popular boy name in the United States in 2012, and the popularity of the name Brayden/Braden may make Brady feel more common. Brady and Braden are falling in popularity; Brayden was steadily rising until 2011, and took its first little dip in 2012. It doesn’t seem too popular to me; I did a quick survey of the children currently at home, and only one of the three knew a Brady.

The name Brenner is very uncommon: only 64 new baby boys were given the name in 2012. It seems easy to spell and pronounce, and I’d think it would fit in well with other surname names.

Similar to Brady are Brody and Grady and Cade. I like Grady best: Grady Steven (R)othwell.

Similar to Brenner are Turner and Tanner and Connor and Carter. I like Turner best: Turner Steven (R)othwell.

Similar to Wyatt are Beckett and Bennett and Everett and Emmett and Garrett and Brett. I like Everett best: Everett Steven (R)othwell. But all the -tt names are a little hard for me to say with (R)othwell.

Similar to Brice are Blake and Brooks and Brett.

 

I don’t know if a Micah would be called Mike. I’ve only known two, both adults, and hadn’t thought of Mike as a nickname for them. It’s like Davis, for me: Dave OUGHT to be a perfectly naturally nickname for it, and certainly if I knew a Micah/Davis who went by Mike/Dave I would think that seemed understandable—and yet I never thought of Mike/Dave as nicknames for Micah/Davis until someone pointed out that they could be. Micah might rule out Malia later on, however.