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Baby Girl Haid, Sister to Daniel Henry

Bethany writes:

We are expecting our daughter to arrive in the middle of April. Our last name is Haid, as in Hyde… not Hey-d, and it is more likely mispronounced than pronounced correctly. I would love to have a name for my daughter that helps in the pronunciation, rather than makes it more difficult. Names like Aiden, for example, are terrible with our last name because of the German vowel pattern.

My name is Bethany, no nickname, and my husband is Daniel, nn Dan. Our son is also named Daniel, a family namesake that has been given to the first son for seven generations now. I have some remorse in naming him after this strong family tradition because I worry it will leave other children from feeling so connected or make them feel less important. I notice this trend in my husband’s family’s Dan’s siblings. However, it was hard to justify not having Daniel Haid #7! Anyway, his full name is Daniel Henry Haid, a name I do appreciate because I think it sounds presidential, strong, and has a good flow. I do often call him by first and middle names, but I probably will never call him Dan, Danny, etc. So we need a name that sounds nice with Dan, Bethany, and Daniel.

If this girl were a boy, I would want a similar strong, presidential sounding name. Maybe Abraham or Solomon. Maybe named after MY father, David Douglas Haid. However, as for naming a girl, I feel really stuck! I don’t feel especially compelled to use another family name, but it might be nice to have some sense of the namesake tradition, even if just middle names.

My husband has only mentioned that he likes two names: Elsa and Anna. He says he likes that they are shorter and doesn’t mind that our last name is short, too. I think these names are nice, but I don’t love them. I do like longer names, ones that are frillier, with more consonants. I suggested Eliza, Elise, Elisa, Annelise/Anneliese, Joanna… and he likes them, but does not love those names. I worry that if we choose Elsa, the nickname Elsie will be dowdy and ugly sounding to my ears. I also don’t really like the name Anna because of having a house with a Dan, Daniel, and Ann/Anna would be too much rhyming!

Names that I like (as well as the ones above) are: Vivian/Vivianne, Beatrice, Catherine, Elinor, Mirabelle (middle?). Alice (too short?), Elizabeth… some of these names are family names on my side, which might be nice as a family namesake tradition. Nice, but not necessary. He hasn’t really endorsed OR vetoed these names, but when I told him this list all he said, “Oh, Catherine… Kate! That is a nice one.” So another really short name!

We both don’t want to choose a name JUST because its popular or JUST because its unusual. We both don’t really love the top ten girls names right now. They are very nice, but we both were the only Bethanys or Daniels in our classes in elementary school in the 90s, and that was nice!

Names that are out are Ava (we named our first daughter lost in pregnancy this), Rebecca (I like, but its my mother in laws name, and it would be logistically ridiculous to have another set of Daniel and Rebeccas living in the same house… plus, I don’t NEED to have a namesake), Charlotte and Emma (BFF just named her girls this in March), anything with a vowel pattern that doesn’t really match Haid.

Other trends I noticed in our naming: It doesn’t have to be Biblical or historic, but that is nice. We like both modern and traditional names. We want a good flow with first and middle, like our son’s name… so a name with repeating first consonants is totally okay.

Can you help us think of a good name solution for our daughter? I am VERY open to totally different suggestions that we might not have thought about. We’ve been through the Baby Name Wizard (both editions) several times, and still we have the big question of “what shall we name the baby?”.

 
I agree with you about Anna: it’s such a great name, but I think it’s too much with Dan and Daniel.

I think Elsa is a very pretty name. I’d never considered it until I heard it on a friend’s niece: Elsa Jane. I immediately loved it and wanted everyone I knew to use it on THEIR babies. I don’t think you’d need to use Elsie any more than you have to use Danny, and if you DID use Elsie I don’t think it’s ugly (which is not to say YOU won’t find it ugly, but sometimes it helps to have other people saying they don’t feel that way about it). You could call her Elsa Jane, just as you call your son Daniel Henry. The one downside of Jane as a middle name is that it works against (or at least not FOR) the correct pronunciation of your surname. I’m trying to think of a long-I middle name, but you know what’s hard to find? Long-I middle names. There’s Jane, Jean, Joan, and June—but no Jine. Elsa Adaline or Elsa Madeline might work.

I wonder if you’d like Amelia? Amelia Haid. I like Abigail Haid even better, but that has the -ai- problem.

Or Clara is similar in style to Anna: Clara Haid, Daniel and Clara.

In keeping with the presidential theme, I wonder if there are any First Lady names that would be pleasing? I like Hillary Haid. Daniel and Hillary. Your choice of Elinor/Eleanor works for this, too, and your husband might like the nickname Nora or Ellie.

I like Frances, too, and Helen, and Ellen, and goodness, I hardly knew ANY First Lady names before looking at this list. Did you know Lady Bird Johnson’s real name was Claudia? Or that Pat Nixon’s real name was Thelma? Or that Grover Cleveland was a grown-up when his future wife was born, and in fact he was the one who bought her baby carriage? Well, I am getting a little off track.

Name update is here!

Baby Girl Goldstein, Sister to Aerin

Cam writes:

We are excited to welcome a second girl to our family on/around April 18, 2011, but we can’t get traction on her name! We just had a girl two years ago, and agreeing on her name was a big enough challenge! She is Aerin R—–. Think of our last name as “Goldstein,” but it starts with a “B.” We love Aerin’s full name. The problem is that my husband and I vetted so many names with her; we have very different tastes; and I would like to avoid common names.

My dream is a fresh, pretty, interesting, but non-trendy name. My husband would be happy with names like Jessica or Mia (too common for me), but he will defer to my choice if he likes the name enough. Why is this so hard? I like names in theory, but end up rejecting most! Any new ideas, or thoughts on our existing options, would be much appreciated!

Current short list:

Sela (a Hebrew name – my husband’s favorite of the ones I’ve suggested)

Isla (I LOVE this one, but we are both nervous because of the likely mispronunciation issue)

Serena (seems long to say, but sounds perfect with our last name)

Names liked in theory …

Annelise

Ciel

Eden (LOVE, but already used by close friend)

Elletra

Ivy (LOVE, but my husband rejected as a stripper name, which I think is crazy!)

Liles

Luella

Louisa

Scarlett

Other facts:

We live in a big city. I am Southern, and my husband is Jewish.

“S” names are good because they would honor my husband’s grandfather (who was Sidney, but we don’t love the girl’s name Sydney except as a middle name).

Middle name could be Adelle (strong family associations), a “J” name like Juliet, Sydney as mentioned above, or something totally different.

I would prefer NOT to use a nickname.

If I gave birth today, “Sela Adelle Goldstein” would be our frontrunner. But I can’t help but think that Sela doesn’t sound “strong” enough, AND I worry about people hearing “seal” when they hear it (insert seal barking noise!). Thoughts?

Thank you SO much!

Ivy a STRIPPER name? Oh, I wonder if he’s thinking of Drew Barrymore in Poison Ivy? She was a bit, er, provocative in that movie. And the DC Comics character Poison Ivy also dresses scantily. Maybe Iris instead?

If you love Eden but can’t use it, I suggest Haven. It’s similar in sound, and I think the association is nicer: less paradise/nakedness/temptation, more safe/comfortable/protected.

If you’re worried about the seal in Sela, I wonder if you’d like Celia? It has the same sound in it, but because the name is more familiar, the “seal” is less noticeable. Or Cecily and Celeste are both very pretty. Or maybe you’d like Selah? According to The Baby Name Wizard, that’s the Hebrew name (pronounced SAY-lah), and Sela is “an unrelated biblical place name.” If that’s true, that would let you keep the S and the Hebrew while losing the seal.

If you like Isla but want to avoid the tricky pronunciation (though it’s getting common enough that I think soon most people will know how to say it), maybe a rhyming name such as Lila? Or I think Mila is so pretty, and that might remind your husband of his frontrunner Mia.

Serena doesn’t seem too long to me.

 

 

Name update! Cam writes:

Our dear baby girl, Isla Adele, arrived nearly two weeks late, at the beginning of May. I was about to lose my mind waiting for her! My husband and I had numerous conversations about names as we waited for her to arrive, and yet we still didn’t name her until just before leaving the hospital. All along, I loved the name Isla the most, but we were afraid of the pronunciation issue. (We pronounce her name “EYE-lah,” but it reads like “IZ-lah” or “EES-lah.”) Finally, we decided to go with the name we loved, even if it might get mispronounced when people read it. We figure that “Isla” is short and simple, so it’s easy for people to remember once they hear it. Plus, we like how it sounds with her big sister’s name, Aerin.

The Swistle input was super helpful, both in making me feel good about our ideas, and in giving me new ones. I was really frustrated about our inability to choose a name while I was pregnant, but reading the responses to my question (and many others) was informative and just plain fun. I thought it was interesting that so many readers liked Sela (my husband’s first choice). I admit I still sometimes wonder if we should’ve picked Sela instead of Isla, but I just don’t LOVE it the way I love Isla. We get a ton of compliments on Isla’s name. I just hope she likes it when she grows up!

P.S. My husband never retreated from his view that Ivy is a “stripper name,” but we all know that he’s wrong about that! :)
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Baby Girl DeHart, Sister to Ty Noble

Haley writes:

We are expecting our second child, a girl, the middle of April, and I am going out of my mind trying to find a name for this little person. When we named our son it was 100% painless, it’s a long story but we just knew that his name was Ty, I think because of that this time around is twice as painful. Our style is pretty all over the place. We want something that is familiar, and classic, I don’t mind popular, but would like to avoid trendy or top 10. My husband and I both have very classic names so I don’t want her to be the odd one out with a bizarre name. A good nickname is very important, I tend to shorten or nickname those I love. Her middle name will be Jen or Jennifer after my amazing mom!
Here is our list so far:

Atley – I love this name, my husband hasn’t vetoed it but has issues with it. For me it has alot of what I want, not overly girly, but still able to be feminine. A little spunky, plenty of nicknames, and definitely not top 10. I also feel like it goes well with Ty. My problem with it is that every time I tell someone this name they either make me spell it for them or spell it themselves to make sure they have it right. Is it so unusual that it falls into the strange category? It has a familiar sound to me but maybe that’s because it has been rolling around in my head for months now.
Addison – This is my husbands compromise to Atley, I do really like the name, but I am having a hard time getting over where it sits on Social Security website.
Josie – Husband likes, I am meh–
Emery – I love, husband is meh
Elsa – Husband is undecided and I am afraid it might get butchered a lot.
Anistyn – Nickname? Not sure I like Ann or Annie
Austyn – Husband likes, I can’t get past no nickname
Lucy – Struggling with the nickname Luc (loose), and it’s top 10 in our area.
Ryland
Ashtyn
Alice
Nellie
Hattie – We are both a little meh, but it’s still on the list
I guess I should also include our three year olds suggestions of Tyla and Cactus

Vetoed:
Scarlett
Dillen
Quinn
Vivian – (I cried when husband vetoed)

Names we love that we can’t use:
Allie
Rylie
Drew
Sydney
Emmeline
Madeline
Audrey
Jessie

After rereading this I realize that I really am all over the place. Guidance please!! I keep thinking that I just haven’t heard the right name yet, and maybe its also a little because my husband really isn’t loving anything either. Of course maybe I am just way over analyzing this whole thing….(me??, no way!) Thanks so much for any suggestions! I can’t wait to settle on a name so that I can dream about something else at night. :)

Atley is indeed a highly unusual name: according to the Social Security Administration, it was given to only 22 girls in 2009. That’s the same as the number of girls who were named Christopher that year. I think with names of that sort, it’s good to have a quick-reference to help people incorporate it: in this case, something like “It’s like Ashley, but with a T instead of an S-H.” Or if you went with Atalie/Ataley, you could say “Like Natalie without the N.”

Padgett comes to mind: it doesn’t solve the classic/familiar issue at all, but it’s similar to Atley and I think it’s such a cute name.

Or would you like Shelby or Brinley? They have some of the sound of Atley, while being more familiar.

If Addison’s popularity is the main sticking point, I suggest Adelyn and Avelyn and Emerson, and perhaps Adeline and Evelyn.

A name similar to Emery is Everly, which makes me think of Ellery, which makes me think of Ellis, which makes me think of Hollis.

I think Elsa is wonderful with your surname: Elsa DeHart. I don’t THINK it would get butchered—or at least, I can’t see many ways to mispronounce it. And it’s good with Ty. This is my favorite from your list.

This is a little out of nowhere, but would you like Paisley? Paisley DeHart; Ty and Paisley. There aren’t a ton of easy nicknames, but I can picture saying Paisy-Daisy.

I think Kiefer is an adorable name for a little girl—but again, nickname issues. Keef? Kiki? Efie (I’m imagining it sounding like Evie)? And the -fer means Jennifer as a middle name won’t work. (Perhaps Cactus instead?)

I think Winslow is gone for boys, which makes it excellent material (with good nicknames) for girls.

 

 

 

Name update! Haley writes:

Our little girl Ally Jennifer DeHart made her debut on April 12, 2011. I was so hoping that everyone who told me the second I saw her I would just “know” what her name was would be right, but not so much. My husband and I had gone through both of the hospitals name books twice and still nothing we could agree on. My husband really wanted to name her Austen, but she was so little and sweet I felt she really needed something more feminine, I was pulling realllllllly hard for Elsa, it just seemed to fit her but my husband just didn’t like it at all. So the name we settled on as we were walking out the door was Ally. Looking back I had thrown that name out early on because we have friends, who also happen to be our neighbors, with a baby girl who is named Alee. But in the end the name is everything I wanted, It’s a traditional name that’s not too trendy, everyone was really shocked, they said “That wasn’t even on the list!!” haha! I am so glad its over, thanks again for all your help and the help from all the readers, it really did help!
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Baby Girl Christie, Sister to Greyson

Meghan writes:

Hi! My name is Meghan and my husband and I were hoping you could help us with picking a name for our little girl expected to arrive in mid-April. We have a two year old son named Greyson James and our last name is Christie, spelled and pronounced just like the girls name. We almost immediately agreed on our sons name and it suits him perfectly. His middle name, James, is the same as my husbands and is a family name on his side. We would like to try and use a family name for our daughter’s middle name as well but if we find something else we love that is negotiable. The family middle names we are considering are Lynn, for his grandmother, and Katherine, for my great grandmother. Right now I think we are having a problem similar to many other posts in that we do not agree on many names or one of us finds a fault with almost every name the other comes up with. We agree that the name should not start with “C” or “K” and should not end in “ie” or “y” as this sounds a bit sing-songy with our last name. Here is a list of names we are currently seriously considering:

Harper- I love this and think it would sound nice with “Lynn” as a middle name but my husband says he cannot see himself using this name on a normal day to day basis.

Rowan- My choice as well, however, he concedes that he does like this but that it sounds too much like his sisters name (Rohanna).

Ella- We both have always really liked this name but are concerned with its popularity. I do not want her to have a name that she will have to share with someone in her class, etc. I am also concerned that if we were to use this that it does not go well with Lynn as a middle name and my husband does not like it with Katherine. Do you think Ella Lynn is too many “L”‘s or double letters?

Lastly, here is a list of other names we have considered but discareded broken down into his list and mine:

My list:
Selah- pronounced Say-La, husband will not even consider
Alivia- too popular even though it does not start with “O”.
Adalynn- we both agreed on this at first but now feel sort of indifferent towards it.

His list:
Eva- we know many Evas and Avas
Evelyn- too popular
Leonna- Sounds too old fashioned to me and we know someone with a daughter named “Lianna”
Adrianna- I vetoed this one.

We would love to hear your opinions and any feedback on the current names/ suggestions of other names would be great! Thank you!

 
I don’t mind the repeating double letters of Ella Lynn (in fact, I like it), but I don’t like the repeating L sounds, or the way the two names run together. I do love the sound of Ella Katherine. But I would advise against Ella for you in any case, since popularity is important to you: Ella was #14 in 2009—much more common than Evelyn and Eva.

I think one of the only problems with the name Harper is there’s no nickname for it: otherwise I would suggest your husband use the nickname until he adjusted to the full name. I wonder if you’d like Juniper instead: it’s similar, but has the easy nickname Junie. Juniper Christie sounds great to me, and I like it with Greyson.

Rowan is so good with Greyson, too. I wish I could suggest Romy or Romilly as possibilities, but they both end in Y. Rosella? It has the Ella you like, plus the Ro sound. Rosella Christie.

Or Bronwyn? It has the feel of Rowan, but won’t be too similar to Aunt Rohanna. Bronwyn Christie sounds wonderful to me. Bronwyn Katherine Christie; Greyson and Bronwyn.

A name my mom recently encountered is Elowyn. It’s similar to Ella and Rowen and Evelyn. Elowyn Christie. It doesn’t work well with either middle name possibility, I don’t think; are there any other names of female relatives you could use?

Fiona, too, has some of the sound of Rowan, though it increases the femininity. Fiona Katherine Christie; Greyson and Fiona.

 

 

Name update! Meghan writes:

Sorry it has taken so long to write with our name update! Just wanted to let you know our daughter, Ella Catherine, was born on April 21, 2011 and was a tiny 5lbs 12oz. My husband and I decided that in the end popularity was not as much of a factor as we once considered. Ella was the original name we both loved and after discovering that Catherine was not only my great grandmother’s first name but my grandmother’s middle name (thus the spelling change from K to C), we knew we had to use it! We absolutely love her name and think it suits her perfectly! She and big brother, Greyson, are doing great! A big thank you to you and the other readers for all of your suggestions and advice!

I have also attached a picture!

BabyGirlChristie

Baby Boy J. (Rhymes With Bronson)

E. writes:

We are due 4/2/11 with our first child, a boy. We are still struggling finding some names that fit our child. I tend to like vintage names while my husband tends to like modern ones.

Some names we have put on our short-list are:

Henry
Nicholas
Emmett
Samuel
Patrick

We hesitate to use Henry because of its popularity. With our VERY most common name, rhymes with Bronson, I fear Baby Henry would be one of thousands.
I really like Nicholas, nn Cole, and it doesn’t seem as popular as the Henrys will be.
Emmett is one we just recently fell upon, but my name is very similar- sounds like Em-uh
Samuel seems over-used, especially in our town. Loads of Sams seem to be at the preschool these days.
And Patrick gives a nice nod to our love of Ireland. We traveled there last year just before getting pregnant. But there are no nice nicknames. Paddy, Pat and Rick just seem uncolorful.

The middle name would possibly be my maiden name, 2- syllable word starting with T and ending in M. It’s a nice gender neutral name.

Other names that I love but haven’t convinced husband about:
Alfred
Dock (family name and means 7th son of 7th son, does not appear on most baby name sites at all)
Curtis
Graham

My husband likes these, and I will never agree to them:
Carrick
Riley
Jude

Can you help us come up with some alternatives for our short-list? We plan to name the baby after we meet him, but it would be grand to have a few more names to choose from, seeing as we are so undecided about any one of them.

Thanks so much!

It is true I had male friends AND a brother so my associative powers might be uncommonly attuned, but I caution against Dock J___son: with a surname that can be used as a slang term for a Certain Male Part, I would avoid a first name that rhymes with another slang term for the same Part—especially when the whole name together, if it were Doc instead of Dock, is the name of a company that sells a Certain Variety of Adult Product.

It’s hard to compare the popularity of Henry and Nicholas: Henry is #71 and rising; Nicholas is #32 and falling after spending a decade in the Top 10. Samuel is #27 and holding pretty steady.

I wonder if you’d like other Irish names? Another name that reminds you of your trip, maybe? Or: Brody, Connor, Corbin, Declan, Eamon, Evan, Finian, Flynn, Garrett, Grady, Ian, Keegan, Lorcan, Neil, Nolan, Owen, Riordan, Ronan, Tiernan. Do you like Riley any better if it’s Rylan, or if it’s spelled Reilly? Or Carrick better if it were Cormac or Kendric?

Since you like Emmett but it’s similar to your name, I wonder if you’d like Everett instead? I love that name, and I think it’s so dignified with your surname. I also love Elliot.

Since you like Alfred and he likes Carrick, would you like Frederick? I love that one, too, and think it’s so underused.

Name update! E. writes:

We had our Baby Boy on March 31, 2011. We named him Andrew Porter. My husband never could come around to our top picks, so he chose Andrew out of the baby name book, and I chose Porter from the book as well. Neither has any family significance, but he definitely looks like a Drew.

Baby Boy: Oliver, Hazen, Luca?

Adrienne writes:

I’ve been reading your blog for quite some time but never thought I would find myself in this predicament. Yet here I am! My husband and I are expecting our first baby, a boy, on April 1st. Yes an April Fool’s baby! We have some name ideas but are not feeling very confident in any of them. We like unique names (doesn’t everyone?) but at the same time don’t want people to wonder what the heck we were thinking… Because of our surname, the first name probably shouldn’t end in an “s”.

Our list includes:

– Oliver: My husband and I both really like this but I feel like it’s rising in popularity very very quickly. My husband is probably favoring this name the most out of our list. It sort of reminds me of Cousin Oliver from the Brady Bunch though. Also, is it too English/pretentious sounding?

– Hazen: This name doesn’t appear on any baby name list. This one has a special association for us. The day we were engaged we went to Hazen’s Notch (a trail/state park) in Vermont. We thought the name was so unique and said that if we ever had a son we would name him this. Now I think we’re both wondering if it’s too out there/weird?

– Matteo: I like it, husband only likes the nickname Teo but not the full name.

– Matthias: I like, husband sadly hates.

– Luca: A name we considered for a very long time but ultimately we started envisioning it more on a girl.

– Lucas: I really like this name but it ends in an “s” which would run into our last name. Not to mention it’s extremely popular.

– Tobias: We love the nickname Toby but the full name reminds us of the character from Arrested Development.

Other than the above list, we are lost! So with that said, what do you think? Any suggestions? We’re also stumped on a middle name although I think Oliver Hazen has a nice ring to it. Swistle please help! I’m a super indecisive person struggling with naming a human being. Not a pretty combo. I’m so afraid to give this little boy the wrong name that I can’t commit to anything! Thanks in advance!!!!

and:

Still no name for our baby but I am starting to strongly consider Luca again. I’m just afraid that it would be seen as too feminine despite being a boy’s name. I don’t want him to deal with “but that’s a girl’s name!” growing up and I know this is a possibility considering my husband and I were definitely thinking of using that name if we were having a girl as well. My husband’s family is from the town named Lucca in Italy so it is a nice connection for us. Thoughts?

Still totally lost and with just over 5 weeks to go, I’m trying to hold myself back from breaking into full out panic mode.

Thanks!

 
In one of those interesting baby name coincidences (as when a child is named Isadora to avoid being Isabella M., and then there happen to be two Isadoras and no Isabellas in her class), I know a little boy named Hazen. He’s been in several classrooms with one of my sons, starting in preschool, so I’ve had some time to form an impression of the name. My impression is that it definitely works (the -en ending helps it to blend in with other such names), but that it’s good to have a story for why it was chosen—which you have, as do the parents of the Hazen I know. Last year, according to the Social Security Administration, 36 boys and 5 girls were named Hazen. I’d be a little concerned that the rising popularity of the name Hazel (as well as to a lesser extent the name Haven) will affect the perceived femininity of the name Hazen.

If you like Matteo but your husband only likes Teo, I wonder if you’d like Theo? It’s given as a stand-alone name, but you could also use Theodore. You might also like the name Milo, or the name Leo, or the name Nico, or the name Hugo.

I know that Luca is a boy name—and yet, it sounds and looks feminine to me. It reminds me of an issue we recently discussed: that certain traditionally male names (Noah, Micah) have sounds and endings that would make them girl names if they weren’t boy names by long tradition—and some of these names are rising for baby girls, including Luca (72 new baby girls named Luca in 2009, up from 58 in 2008, up from only 19 in 2001 and 6 in 1999). I would avoid Luca because of this—especially with the popularity of the name Lucy enforcing the feminine look.

If you like Toby but want to avoid Tobias, I wonder if you’d like Tobin. Or Corbin.

Oliver is one of my own favorite boy names. I think it has a pleasingly British sound. It’s true, though, that it’s rising in popularity. Maybe you would like another of my favorite boy names: Simon. I think it has a similar style, but it’s hanging around in the 250s without moving much. The repeating-S initials might not be ideal, however.

Perhaps Ian? It’s such a great name, and it’s been pretty stable: in the Top 100, but not rising.

Or maybe you would like Frederick, or Franklin, or George? I think these get overlooked, and yet they fit in nicely with the Olivers and Henrys.

And if you really want something different, I suggest John. It FEELS like it’s so overused, and yet…I’ve run into as many children named John as named Hazen. This experience doesn’t line up with the statistics, but I think it was my friend Mairzy who speculated that this is because many boys named John are namesakes who go by a different name.

 

 

Name update! Adrienne writes:

Apologies it’s taken SO long for me to send an update. After much fretting and list writing of pros and cons for each name, our precious baby boy made his grand debut into the world after a harrowing induction on March 29th. I waivered on his name for a moment as he was born to David Bowie’s “Young Americans” (a favorite artist of mine for years) and almost thought we should give him Bowie as a middle name. My husband brought me back to reality though and after a couple hours of studying his face, Oliver Hazen just clicked for us. My sweet Oliver has given us so much joy these last 6 months and though I do see that his name is becoming more and more popular…it just fits him so perfectly.

Thanks for all the help!

Baby W., Sibling to Grady

S. writes:

I am due with our second child, gender unknown, on March 14th. Our son is Grady, and our last name is one syllable beginning with W. If this baby is a girl, we have a whole list of names I would be totally happy to use (Teagan and Rowen are top choices), but the boy name list is woefully…meh. I would prefer to use an Irish/Gaelic name, but that’s not a hard rule. I don’t generally like common names in the first name spot. Right now, our list of boys names include Keane, Breckin, Seamus, Dewey. We have also considered Tiernan and the various Finn names. I would probably use Keane, but I’m concerned with two single syllable names. That’s my main concern, will it be too choppy? I don’t remember any posts about single syllable names. Any name suggestions would be very helpful.

Some 1/1-syllable names work great: previous commenters have mentioned examples such as Brad Pitt and Sean Penn. Keane W___ works, I think, as does Finn W____. I think I would use Keane Breckin W____, or Finn Seamus W____. In fact, I’m reluctant to look for more names, because I think both of those are so great!

 

Name update! S. writes:

We ended up with a girl and named her Rowan. We never did pick a boy name, so it worked out in the end.

Baby Naming Issue: Changing One’s Name as an Adult

Stephanie writes:

Love your baby name blog! I’m writing in not for any impending babies, but for myself. Here’s the thing. I’ve LOATHED my name since I was a kid. I’ll be 30 this year and have decided enough is enough, I’m going to change it.

Pertinent details:

Current first name – Stephanie
Last name (which I’m keeping and plan on keeping if I get married) – P [2 Italian sounding syllables] a

I love my last name. Things I cannot stand about my first name include being lumped into that early 80s group of Tiffany/Brittany/Kelly, how it sounds as a full name and how it sounds as Steph. To my ear it just sounds like bleh and I’ve just never felt like Stephanie fits me. It’s getting to the point where I’m cringing when I introduce myself to people.

I’ve had a list of possible first/middle name combinations that used to hang out in the back of my school planner and now lives in my smartphone (aaah, changing times).

My style is very pulled from romance novels. Lots of European names, surnames as first names, traditionally male names.

I do enjoy Stefania (though I’d likely keep the ‘ph’ over the ‘f’ even though that’s not the traditional spelling). However, it seems like a lot of fuss to change one letter. I could just ask people to call me Stephania but it seems like it’d be going backwards – my name is Stephanie but call me Stephania. It’s the same reason I’m leaning towards a legal change versus just having people call me by a different name – if every legal document, form, and identification still says Stephanie, it won’t matter if people sometimes refer to me as Starlight Moonbeam, Stephanie will still be my go to name. Plus Stephania is still likely to get shortened to Steph and ugh.

Also, I’d like to be called by all 3 names in more formal situations. Document wise, is it more preferable to have one first/middle/last and introduce myself, sign things as first/middle/last or is it clearer to go the two last name or two first name route?

I work in a fairly traditional field so anything too eyebrow raising is out. Some of the names have been on my list for years and others are more recent additions (some from your blog!) but they all just felt and sounded right when I thought of them for myself. I’m definitely decided on changing, but I think I’m in a forest for the trees scenario where I need some outside opinions and suggestions. At this point, everything sounds phenomenal, not too unusual or odd, but not too common and there’s no way I can pick just one :)

Top contenders:

Braeden (stuck on middle name)
Ellery Snowden
Merrielle Emerson (I love the way Merrielle looks and sounds in my head, with the ‘eh’ sound in the first syllable but am concerned I’ll have to deal with an ‘ah’ sound, definitely not a fan of Mariel or Muriel or Mary)

Other list favorites:

Sadie (even though I 100% prefer this to Stephanie, it still has some of the same issues of sounding young and more unprofessional)
Grey
Winter
Vivienne
Penelope

Thank you so much!

Here is what I think is the NUMBER ONE issue: you’re looking at names that are being given to TODAY’S babies—but were NOT given to babies in 1981 when you were born. The name Stephanie fits perfectly into what we expect for someone who’s about 30 years old. The name Vivienne does not.

This is a problem I’ve noticed in novels, too: the author uses her favorite BABY names on her characters, forcing us to try to imagine a married couple in their thirties named Isabella and Noah. It’s jarring. It’s jarring in real life, too.

I strongly recommend choosing a name that would have been reasonable in the year of your birth—as opposed to a name that might have occasionally been used but would have been a shock. In the U.S. in 1981 only 10 new baby girls were named Vivienne. Girls named Braeden/Brayden/Braden or Gray/Grey or Ellery or Merrielle: 0-4 (fewer than 5 is recorded as “0” on the Social Security forms). Penelope: 77. Winter: 109. Sadie wins: 280. But for comparison, 20,201 baby girls were named Stephanie.

I think it would be best to find a name that is not quite as common as Stephanie was, and that feels to you like a better fit, without making you sound like you were born in 2011. A distinctly younger name can give a “Behold the ravages of time!” feeling: imagine seeing a woman in her seventies and hearing her introduced as Jennifer. It does happen (42 baby girls were named Jennifer in 1936), but it’s startling and not in a pleasing way. And, if you have children in the future, we want to avoid using up the names you might want to use for them.

I’m not sure about the “use all three names for formal situations” question. What SORTS of formal situations? Very few people include their middle names in introductions, and I’m having trouble thinking of a situation where it would be anything but confusing. I think the easiest way for a woman to go by three names is for her to have a hyphenated surname or a two-name first name.

I think if I were planning to change my name, I would begin by asking my parents if they still remembered other names they were considering for me (including boy names), and seeing if any of those fit better. This has the advantage of being more “authentic” a name change (to something your own parents might actually have named you), and also of better pleasing your parents if they’re still in the picture and might be fluffled by this name-change idea. I would in fact interview them extensively, asking if there were family names they considered, or family surnames they might have used as first names (or that they would be willing to consider now that such names are more often used). In addition to the previous advantages, this gives you something to say to anyone startled by your name: “It’s a family name.” I’ve found that line takes the wind out of most sails.

If those interviews and family-tree-shakings yielded no good candidates, I would take the 1981 Top 1000 Social Security name list and I would start at the top and just keep going down. Lauren? Veronica? Victoria? Katrina? Cassandra? Margaret? Bethany? Sabrina? Molly? Jillian? Meredith? Bridget? Joy? Claudia? Marissa? Those are all from the 1981 Top 200 so they shouldn’t shock anyone when used for someone your age—but they have a sound that still works for today’s babies. Too common among your peers? Here are some possibilities from 200-300: Audrey, Ruth, Sophia, Naomi, Evelyn, Olivia, Lydia, Esther, Eva, Amelia, Charlotte, Grace. Good names for babies now—but they were being used in 1981, too.

If by now you are saying, “Pff, Swistle, you old worrywart, I don’t care about any of this! I asked about the names ON MY LIST!” Okay! I can do that, too.

I closed my eyes and imagined meeting someone approximately my age (fine, I was a 1970s baby, DETAILS, DETAILS), and hearing her introduced as each of the names on your list. To my surprise, it was some of your LEAST-used-in-1981 names that seemed least surprising to me on a 1981-born person. For example: I could imagine meeting a Braeden or an Ellery my age, but not a Penelope or a Vivienne or a Sadie or a Winter. I am not sure how to explain this. Part of it is likely regional and so will vary from commenter to commenter. Part of it might be that Vivienne and Sadie and Penelope FEEL so “now” for baby girls, with people writing in to ask if they’re too trendy, whereas Braeden and Ellery are not quite here yet. Part of it may be associations (which, again, will vary from commenter to commenter): Penelope sounds ONLY like Penelope to me, but Braeden is reminiscent of Brianna and Brandi, and Ellery of Emily and Danielle and Michelle. Part of it may be that it’s not uncommon for a new name to waffle around a bit between boys and girls when it first comes into usage (example: Mackenzie), so it feels like it COULD have happened that Braeden would be used for a girl before it became primarily a boy name.

For middle names, I think choosing a name from your own generation will make the first name seem more likely. I think use Snowden only if that’s a family name for you. Otherwise I’d look for other family names, or perhaps use Stephanie or your current middle name there, or your mother’s maiden name, or something else of that sort. Or if you’re again saying, “HELLO, I asked about MY list!,” then I say Ellery Snowden is good, and I’d do Braeden Winter or Braeden Ellery.

Or I might do Braeden Sofia. It’s feminine enough to make it clear Braeden is a girl name in this case. And Sofia is similar to Stefania, and yet Sophia was already #211 in 1981 (and in fact made a huge leap between 1980 and 1981) so it wouldn’t be odd as a middle name for a 30-year-old.

Name update! Stephanie writes:

I wrote in a couple months ago about wanting to change my name as an adult from Stephanie. You and the people who commented offered some excellent suggestions and made some great points and after using various names at restaurants and such and narrowing the field down to a winner (Ellery Braeden!), I looked at the calendar and realized that between scheduled travel and out of town things and court schedules, there wouldn’t be time to make it official until next year. And the fact that residency of at least a year is required and I’m planning on moving before then and it’s something I’d rather not put off till 2014 so am compromising with myself and going with something that could be a reasonable stretch from Stephanie. And I’ve landed on Sutton. I love it, have loved it, it’s unusual enough to make me happy but still easy enough to avoid most confusion and while I’m-Stephanie-but-everyone-calls-me-Sutton isn’t the most natural of flows, I think the similarity in s and t sounds make it plausible. So that’s the update, hooray!

The follow up is – how do I transition into using my new name in professional/formal circumstances. It seems like it shouldn’t be too complex, I think of the people who have legal names of John and are called Jack or are Mary Sue Claire Smith and exclusively go by Claire but…how does that work?

Do I put Sutton on my resume and just mention in any future interviews oh hey, my application says Stephanie but I go by Sutton? My license/credit cards will still say Stephanie but what about at doctor’s offices/store loyalty cards/other non social situations where I’m writing my name but it isn’t a legal document? It seems like a familiar enough situation that I should be able to discover some answers but it is proving to be rather un-googleable. So am turning once again to you and the fabulous community.

Thank you!

Baby Girl N____stat, Sister to Lincoln

Tori writes:

I am writing to you for help. I am scheduled for a c-section with our second child 03/16/2011- a GIRL! We already have a son, Lincoln Thomas. My husband and I are having a very difficult time in choosing a name for this little one. With our son, we had a few names chosen prior to his delivery, but didn’t name him until we saw him. And his name we chose was actually vetoed off our list prior to him getting here.

Names we currently have on our list (and it’s a short one) are Charlotte, Ramsay, Abigail, and McKinley. MIddle name will most likely be Marie. Our last name is 2 syllables- starts with N and ends in ‘stat.’

Other names we had on our list that have been removed for one reason or another were:
Finley
Eleanor
Parker
Kennedy
Georgia
Mathilda- Husband HATES this
Eloise
Ruby
Reagan
Audrey- have 2 nieces named Avery, thought this might be too similar
Lucy
Olivia
Amelia

Few rules/restrictions we do have:
1.) Can’t be someone in the family with the name.
2.) Don’t want anything TOO trendy- we don’t want her to be one of 6 in her class
3.) Really trying to stay away from the presidential theme. We did originally think it would be cute, but are now reconsidering- which is why we’re not really sold on McKinley.

Any help you could give us would be greatly appreciated!! I’m at my wit’s end and just want to have a name for this baby!!!

Name update! Tori writes:

I know this post is MONTHS past, but we ended up naming our baby girl Charlotte Marie. Perfect for her, and sounds great with Lincoln. We get compliments on their names everywhere we go.

Thanks so much for all the input. :)

Baby Girl or Boy Pombier, Sibling to Cohen

Monica writes:

My husband and I are on baby number 2 and are expecting any day now! We aren’t finding out the sex, so two names are needed. My sons name is Cohen Michael and I really like that it’s a bit different without being too out there. I want something that flows well with his name. Our girl choice is Harper (at least that’s what my husband hasn’t vetoed). Our last name is French…Pombier. My husband and I just cannot agree on a boys name and need some help!!

Names I like are Cooper, Kellan, Landon. A bit all over the place I know. I do like the Irish/Gaelic feel. He has said no to all of these. He likes Milo, Max, Finn, Noah, and Miles. I’m not a fan of these. We are clueless at this point and I’m due 2/23/11!!

Im sure you get tons of emails but would really appreciate the help. Thanks!

Finn seems like a good place to start, since it’s on your husband’s list and you like Irish/Gaelic names. Would you like it better if it was Finlay? Phinneas? Griffin? Finnegan? Finlan? Finian? Quinlan?

Kellan seems a little too close to Cohen: same starting sound, same ending sound, and soft middle sounds. Something like Keegan might work better: the beginning and ending sounds are still the same, but the strong G sound helps make them sound more different from each other.

Milo and Miles make me think of Malcolm and Niall and Lyle.

Milo and Landon make me think of Leo and Lyle.

Noah makes me think of Ezra, which I think has Cohen’s flavor of “a bit different but not too out there.”

Cooper makes me think of Hooper, Carson, and Carter. Cohen and Carson are pretty similar (like Cohen and Keegan: sort of right on the line), but I think Cohen and Carter works.

Name update! Monica writes:

We ended up having a GIRL!! No boy name was needed. We named her Harper Kate. She’s SO sweet!
Thank you all very much for the responses. I had no idea I would get so much help. Sorry it took so long to get back with you. I’ve been a little busy :)

Thanks again!