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Baby Girl or Boy Reese, Sibling to Harper Grace

Rebecca writes:

We’re expecting baby numero dos on or around December 23rd, 2010, gender unknown. Somehow we’ve gotten ourselves into quite the naming conundrum this time around! Which is why we would love to enlist you and your readers’ help. Our daughter’s name is Harper Grace and our surname is pronounced ‘Reese’. My naming ‘rules’ are 1) must be somewhat uncommon, not trendy, 2) must be able to look at the name and pronounce it correctly, 3) must flow well with our daughter’s name. Two and a half years ago when we picked the name Harper, we had no idea how popular it would become (and quickly!). Sorta trying to avoid that this time around, but I just need some opinions that come from outside my own head!

We welcome any and all ideas and new names as well. For some reason, our boy names have always been very biblical-sounding and girl names, not so much. Clearly, we’re open to anything. Thanks a bundle!

Girls
Gretta
Atley
Morrow
Eisley
Briar
Matilda, nn Tilly (my husband’s favorite; I’m on the fence)

Middle name options for girls include: Kathryn, Kate, Paige, and Madeline.

Boys
Shepard
Abraham
Judah
Silas (one of my favorites, just don’t know if its too many ‘s’ sounds with our surname)

Middle name options for boys: Benjamin (my husband’s name), but if we go with Shepard, it would be Eli or Elias.

Shepard is one of my favorite unusual boy names, but I think with Harper it’s too careery. Or too nativity, or something. Were harpists present at the nativity? Anyway. Too many trade names.

My favorite from your boy name list is Silas. If you decide it’s too much S, I wonder if you’d like Simon or Simeon? Simeon Elias, maybe.

The girl name list is harder to narrow down. Morrow and Eisley and Atley seem too unusual with Harper (and for me, both Morrow and Eisley break the rule about being able to look at it and pronounce it correctly), and Matilda and Gretta are such a totally different style (sturdy and retro rather than trade/literary/surname name). Briar would be my choice except that then both names end in the -er sound. I think that’s okay since the names are so different in other ways, but I’d still prefer to avoid it. And maybe Atley wouldn’t be too unusual: it’s highly uncommon, but I feel as if I’m familiar with it—in a way I don’t feel about Morrow and Eisley.

More possibilities:

Averil Madeline Reese, Harper and Averil
Cleo Madeline Reese, Harper and Cleo
Ellery Kathryn Reese, Harper and Ellery
Ellison Kate Reese, Harper and Ellison
Elodie Kathryn Reese, Harper and Elodie
Flannery Kate Reese, Harper and Flannery (too literary?)
Hollis Kathryn Reese, Harper and Hollis (repeating H-)
Jensen Paige Reese, Harper and Jensen
Kiefer Kathryn Reese, Harper and Kiefer (repeating -er)
Madigan Kate Reese, Harper and Madigan
Marlowe Kathryn Reese, Harper and Marlowe
Quincy Kate Reese, Harper and Quincy
Waverly Kathryn Reese, Harper and Waverly
Yeardley Kate Reese, Harper and Yeardley

Name update! Rebecca writes:

Just wanted to let you know our babe decided to make an appearance on December 22, 2010. Its a girl! After much contemplation and back & forth, we named her Rowan Kate. It was one of your reader’s suggestions and my husband and I both loved it–and that isn’t easy to achieve! It suits her just perfectly and we feel so blessed. Thanks again for all your help!

Baby Boy Rose

M. writes:

I came across your blog and I’m hoping that you can help us with our baby boy naming dilema. We are expecting a baby boy this December (the 18th) and for months my husband and I have been going back and forth and cannot agree on anything. Would LOVE some advice and opinions since we have spent months pouring over name books and can’t agree. Our last name is Rose.

Before we knew it was going to be a boy, we had NO problem deciding on girls names- we agreed on everything! We both loved Chloe and Lauren, and we both liked Clara too, so that was no problem! However, once we found out it’s a boy, we are stuck since we’ve never agreed on anything and the closer the due date gets the more stressed I am getting about finding a name! I find boys names really hard to pick- I have always liked the name Reid, but our last name is Rose, so that doesn’t sound right together (plus my husband doesn’t like it anyway). I tend to like preppy-ish names, but my husband vetoes them all saying they don’t sound strong enough. We both liked Jake until a friend of ours had a baby and used that name (close friend, so we can’t use it), and we both liked Gavin, but a family member had a baby and used that name! My husband likes Wyatt, but I can’t get the image of cowboys out of my head, and it just seems too trendy, or trying too hard or something. The hard part is that our last name is feminine, so it really should be a pretty masculine name. We had Jackson on the list originally (but I think it’s WAY too popular) and Deacon on our lists (I like Deacon more than my husband- I don’t think he can get Wyatt out of his head). I also liked Graham, but husband said no. If we can’t agree on anything, I have a feeling my husband is going to get his way and just name him Wyatt Jackson. However, I would love to have a say in at least one of the names, and make that name a little less common or trendy. I would love a name that has a bit of ‘soul’ in it instead of strength, but not have the name be too soft….we are stuck.

Any advice would be appreciated!
Thank you!

This is one of the many brilliances of The Baby Name Wizard: if you know some girl names you like, you can look up “brother names” and see if any of those are also to your tastes.

For Chloe, The Baby Name Wizard suggests Liam, Gavin, Miles, Carter, Caleb.

For Clara: Louis, Julius, Theo, Porter, Charles.

For Lauren: Brandon, Lucas, Nathan, Zachary, Joshua.

And look, there’s Gavin among the choices!

Because Carter’s R-ending runs into the R of Rose, I’d suggest Carson instead if you wanted something of that style. But Carson might be too androgynous with Rose.

Caleb may be more popular than you have in mind (or maybe not: it’s about the same rank as Gavin, according to The Social Security Administration), but what I like about it is it’s very boyish and it has something of the cowboy vibe that might be what draws your husband to the name Wyatt.

Miles definitely has soul, and it’s definitely boyish, but is it strong enough? Perhaps not. Would Milo be an improvement? Milo Rose. Hm, it sounds like “my low rose.”

Davis might have some soul from Miles Davis. Davis Rose.

I know a family with a similarly feminine-sounding surname, and they went with the first name Derek. Their other finalist was Garrett.

Zachary is definitely masculine, and the nickname Zach is similar to Jake from your list.

Gavin makes me think of:

Garrett
Gideon
Grady
Griffin

Grady sounds particularly cowboy to me, but all those names seem strong and masculine.

Baby Girl Brown, Sister to Ottilie, Adalia, Cecily, Nolia, and Violet

Emily writes:

Sorry for the somewhat last minute email here, but we are in trouble! My husband and I are having our sixth daughter together next week, she is due November 5th. This is the first time we have found out the gender before birth, and I think it has made naming the poor mite even harder. Our main problem is choosing a first name which goes well with her sisters names.

Ottilie Fflur (aged 7 – sometimes goes by Tilly, her middle name is Welsh)

Adalia Seren (aged 6 – sometimes goes by Addie, her middle name is Welsh)

Cecily Roma ( aged 4 – born when we lived in Italy for a year, hence her middle name!)

Nolia Betsy (aged 21 months – Nole-ee-ah, English middle name)

Violet Lucina (aged 21 months – Vi-oh –LETT, English middle name)

Our names are, Logan James Brown and Emily Quinn Brown.

Some names we like, but are out:-

Aleydis – Not sure if I want to reuse initials though (Adalia)
Helena – (niece’s name)
Eleanor/a
Emmeline
Evangeline (my name is Emily – so I don’t really want to reuse the E)

As each of the girls has an L in the second half of her name I would quite like to do this again, to continue flow. But it is not crucial as long as the name sounds like one of the bunch! But we are quickly running out of names! As we have eliminated – A,B,O,N,C&V names for definite and maybe L and E names too! (B because hubby doesn’t like alliteration – so Beatrice/Beatrix is gone)

Middle names:- ( Need to reflect the country of birth, this baby will be born in USA)

Quinn
Logan
???? Really depends on the first name, preferably unusual

One name we are considering is Romilly Quinn Brown.

Sorry – for the long question, it really has become rather complicated naming her! Maybe we should go with Cecily’s suggestion of Bumblebee! Thanks

I think Romilly Quinn takes care of all your requirements. I hesitate only because it adds another “lee” sound, when already four of the five girls (and you) have that sound. Do you pronounce Ottilie as Ah-TILL-ee-ah or AH-till-lee? If the latter, Romilly seems rhymey; if the former, it’s a worry only if you might call her Milly and would rather not have a Tilly and a Milly.

Other possibilities:

Genevieve
Imogen
Isadora
Juliette (too rhymey with Violet?)
Penelope
Philippa
Philomena
Willemina

If E isn’t out after all, I suggest Elodie. If L isn’t out after all, I suggest Lorelei.

Baby Girl Acksum, Sister to Jonathan

Kacie writes:

I am 33 weeks pregnant (the 40-week mark is Dec. 16) with a little girl. My husband and I cannot figure out who she is! I’m thinking we’ll probably need to see her before we can truly decide, but in the meantime, I’m desperate for some suggestions we can work with.

Our last name, spelled phonetically, is ACK-sum. To me, this eliminates all first names that begin and end with an “a” sound. That’s a LOT of girl names! Also, names that end with an “m” sound too sing-songy to me. I think names that end with a consonant sound best.

My son has a traditional name that is fairly high on the SSA chart. He is Jonathan and goes by Johnny. When we chose it, we thought we picked a name that anyone could spell. Nope — even our own family has spelled it Johnathan or Jonathon. Oh well.

Names on our “maybe” list:

Vivienne (this is the front-runner for now)
Jocelyn (nickname of Josie is cute, but we think Jocelyn sounds too similar to Jonathan. We liked this one a lot for awhile, but it just has grown out of favor for us)
Evelyn (not sure if I like any of the nicknames for it)
Evangeline (my husband thinks this is too clunky and not that pretty)

Names on our “nope” list:

Caroline (I like it but my SIL has claimed it for her own future daughter, and I’m not about to cause drama by stealing it!)
Madeleine (not liking nickname possibilities)
Marilyn (I always think of Marilyn Monroe)
Clementine (I thought this would be a fantastic middle name but my husband vetoed that one pretty strongly)
Charlotte (it’s nice, but it’s the name of someone in our family and so that’s why we don’t want to use it)
any name that ends with an “een” sound

Can you help? First name suggestions would be great, and if you want to throw in some middle name ideas, so much the better!

Jocelyn/Josie makes me think of Josephine. Jonathan and Josephine don’t sound too close to me, and Johnny and Josie is too adorbs for words. But it ends in an -een sound.

Evelyn and Evangeline and Clementine make me think of Emmeline. Emmeline Acksum, Jonathan and Emmeline. My mom and I have noticed that “Louise” makes a great middle name (not only for the “fun to say” factor but because as others have mentioned you can shorten it to Lou and use it for an extended nickname with the first name): Emmeline Louise Acksum, and you could call her Emmie Lou sometimes.

Vivienne and Evelyn make me think of Lillian. Lillian Abigail Acksum, Jonathan and Lillian, Johnny and Lilly.

One of my favorites is Celeste. Celeste Olivia Acksum, Jonathan and Celeste.

Margaret sounds similar to Charlotte and has so many nicknames. Margaret Louise Acksum, Jonathan and Margaret, Johnny and Maggie/Meg/Greta/Daisy.

Name update! Kacie writes:

Thank you for your help with narrowing down our baby name choices. I’m happy to announce that our daughter, Vivienne Elise, is here! She was born on Dec. 17.

I think my husband needed extra assurance that Vivienne really is a great name, even though we don’t know anyone with that name in our generation. He was worried it would be too uncommon or old-fashioned, but he’s grown to really like it. And after we announced her birth, we’ve had lots of positive feedback.

I suggested Elise way back in the middle of summer, and he vetoed it because he hadn’t ever heard of it. And wouldn’t you know it, a month or so ago he suggests it for the middle name spot. We like the delicate sound and think it all flows nicely.

Thanks again!

Baby Boy Johnson, Brother to Perry, Parker, Libby, Corban, and Clayt

Erica writes:

We just found out that we are expecting our 5th, yes FIFTH B.O.Y…wowzers! I LOVE playing the name game and thoroughly enjoyed picking out GIRLS names for the first 10 weeks of the pregnancy…but alas, we need another boy name! I am now 33 weeks along and we still have no name! This is especially hard because we usually are great name pickers! We actually picked our #5 child’s name the day our #4 child was born, so with it being this late in the pregnancy is really hard for me. I feel like having a name helps me bond with the baby during pregnancy and without it I’m struggling.

My husband and I are Eric and Erica Johnson and we are a blended family with “our” 3rd on the way. The older 3 children are from my previous marriage, but they all live with us. The children’s names are

Perry Thomas B. (13)

Parker Logan B. (12)

Libby McClairen B. (9½)

Corban Joseph J. (2½)

Clayt Daniel J. (18m)

Baby boy J. due 12/15/10

All but one child (Parker Logan) has a family name, or a family inspired name (meaning we have a really long story how I got from my dad’s name Clayton to McClairen for my daughter’s middle name….but to me it is the inspiration more than the exact name that matters)

It is important to me that the meaning of the names have no negative meanings and its important to me that we find the closest meaning based on etymology rather than “baby-naming” websites that like to flower up some of the less desirable meanings. We are word of faith Christians, and its really important to me that we are speaking nothing negative about our child every time we call his name! I would really like this baby’s name to reflect that he is appointed, a gift, a reward or something with that kind of meaning. I’ve been dealing with a bit of disappointment (as much as I don’t want to be but I was so hopeful for a girl this time around)

Our 2 youngest children’s middle names are family names but we are pretty much out of male names…we are a family surrounded with females! Hubby’s father is Joseph Daniel (hubby is Eric Joseph) It really bugs me to not have a family name, but to “force” the issue seems to be no good either.

Possible Middle names:

Eric- haven’t run it by hubby but with the right first name he might go for it

Ray- I don’t like it much for the sound of the name, but it is a family name (my dad’s middle name, and my DH great grandpa’s first name) Coming from the name Raymond, it means Advice protector…Downside….my sister used the name for her daughter (who is 2 years old) and we are close…So maybe another name with the name “ray” with in it….though Raymond doesn’t really ring my bell either! UGH…

Since we are running low on family names, a known biblical name might be an easier route (I’ve looked through nearly all of them by meaning and picked out a nice long list of instant vetos…

I like Eli or Elijah for a middle name, because I felt God used a baby named Eli to help prepare my heart for this son. DH hasn’t vetoed or approved the name

The few first names that we have on the still considering list…but none really feel like they fit….

Names I’ve suggested (all have meanings that “pass”)

Ramsey – my favorite but DH doesn’t like names that end with and “ey” sound.
Gentry Foster
Foster Eli

Names DH has suggested

Roman
Titus
Lock(e)
Given
Wyatt – DH current like, but “meh”…if you ask me and I don’t like the meaning.

Thanks for your help!

Middle Name Challenge: Nathaniel ______ Murrah

Mathilda writes:

I’m due to have a c-section this Thursday (Oct. 28) and my husband and I are still looking for ideas for a middle name. I thought we could manage, but my due date is coming up quickly, and I’m at a complete loss. My sister referred me to youcantcallitit, which led me to Appellation Mountain, which led me to you. I’ve been reading past posts for nearly an hour now. It seems to me that you all have great naming insights, and I was wondering if you or your readers could give us any ideas.

We’ve chosen Nathaniel as a first name, but don’t even have one solid middle name option. We like older, underused boys’ names that are out of the mainstream. Nathaniel is more popular than we’d like, so we were hoping to find a more uncommon middle name.

Our other children are Emma-Grace Iselin Murrah
Branson Levi Murrah
Chandler Jacoby (jack-o-bee) Murrah

We’d be immensely grateful for any suggestions!

 

 

Name update! Mathilda writes:

Thanks for putting up the post so quickly. I wanted to let you know we decided to name him Nathaniel Justice. There were so many great suggestions, but I felt like this name really clicked with my husband and I. Thanks so much for your help!

Mathilda

PS: I’ve attached a picture of him as well.
Nathaniel

Baby Naming Issue: Nicknames for Jonathan

Pamela writes:

I need help with nicknames.

My husband really wants to name our baby Jonathan Elias Orellano. I also like Jonathan, but don’t like the common nicknames that people shorten it to. I hate Jonny and Jon and don’t like Nathan either. I’m not sure I would like using Elias for a first name. I’ve also checked out all the international versions of Jonathan and John and none of them seems just right. I would like to come up with a unique catchy nickname maybe from letters or parts of his name or names.

Thanks so much for any help or advice you can give!

I suggest Jay. I knew a lot of nice guys named Jay in high school, and Jay can be a nickname for anyone whose name starts with J.

You could also go with Jeo (pronounced gee-oh), his initials.

My mom knows a child who goes by “Thanny.”

Or, call him Jonathan. This is one of the best times to live in for calling a child by his or her full name: Jameses and Elizabeths abound, free of Jim and Beth. But of course this doesn’t keep him from choosing a nickname for himself later on.

Name update! Pamela writes:

Thanks so much for all your comments. We have finally decided to stick with the full name Jonathan. I was encouraged to hear that many parents are choosing to call their children by full names and not nicknames. I did like some of the suggestions though, Jonjee and Jonty are cute.

Baby Girl Ho, Sister to Clare Elizabeth

Rebecca writes:

One of my dearest friends has been following you for years and I’ve definitely become a loyal reader these past few months. My husband and I are expecting our 2nd daughter and we just can’t seem to agree on a name. Not really, anyway. We practically chose our daughter’s name when we were on our honeymoon (after a character in a book we were reading at the time, and loved) – a full 3 years in advance of her arrival! But apparently, that’s all the inspiration we have. Now that we’re dreaming up names for a second girl, we’re stuck. It seems to be the classic problem.. I come up with a long list of lovely names and my husband vetos almost all of them.

We’re due the first week of December and our first daughter is Clare Elizabeth. Our last name sounds like “Ho” (all jokes about Heidi, Thali, Randie, and Harry/Harriet have been made, I promise). My husband and his family are Chinese-Canadian.

We shy away from names that are trendy. For example, Avery was on our list until we discovered that there are 4 at our daughter’s daycare centre. We seem drawn to fairly traditional names. Our top 5 so far are:

Julia
Charlotte (Charlie)
Madeline (Maddy)
Margaret (Maggie)
Catherine/Katherine (Cate/Kate)

The predicament is that I love Julia and my husband dramatically prefers Kate. Julia’s at the bottom of his favs and Cate is at the bottom of mine.

The other predicament is that we have almost no plan for a middle name. My family tradition would be to choose something from the family but there are some slim pickings (Joan, Evelyn, Dorothy, Louise, Kathleen, Eva, Theresa, Cynthia for example). I would love to choose a middle name that leant itself to an initial-based nickname .. like Charlotte Joan (CJ) or AJ, JJ, JD, etc. My husband “refuses, under any circumstances to call (his) daughter by her initials.” Ideally the middle name would come from the list above but feel free to offer some new suggestions for a middle name. We may just have to break with tradition this time.

Finally, I don’t like aliteration and I’m not sure that I like both daughters having a hard ‘C’ sound at the front of their names. Hence my reservation with Cate.

Thanks so much to you and your readers!

 
Let’s see what happens when we get rid of both Julia and Cate. That leaves Charlotte, Madeline, and Margaret. And you have GREAT family names for the middle name! Joan, Evelyn, Louise, and Eva are my favorites.

My own favorite of the three remaining names is Margaret, and I like it with any of those middle names. I particularly like it with the shorter middle names, since that gives a balanced feeling with your first daughter’s name: one longer name and one shorter. Clare Elizabeth and Margaret Joan, or Clare Elizabeth and Margaret Eva.

But Madeline and Charlotte also work well with the middle names: Madeline Joan, Madeline Louise, Charlotte Joan, Charlotte Louse.

I think we’d better have a poll. I’ll include all five of your finalists. [Poll closed; see results below.]

ClarePoll

 

 

Name update! Rebecca writes:

Our baby girl arrived a little bit ahead of schedule – November 28th, 2010. Your comments really helped us come to a decision on her name. In fact, your suggestion of removing both Julia and Cate from our short list helped us realize that we really didn’t want Julia eliminated from contention. Sometimes being told that you can’t have something only makes you want it more, doesn’t it? So, that’s all it took! Our 2nd daughter is Julia Louise Ho and she’s truly lovely. We couldn’t be happier. Thanks for all your help.

Baby Boy Schaff, Brother to Noah Wilfred

Faith writes:

I have enjoyed reading your posts over the past few months! I have been looking for a sign – anything – to tell me that “this is the name” of our second son. So far, nothing.

I will have a scheduled c-section on December 8th.
His brother is 3 1/2 year Noah Wilfred (Noah b/c we loved it and thought it was so original at the time + Wilfred my father’s name)
Our last name is Schaff (short A sound SHAFF)
Dad is Russell Eugene Schaff III
We have both agreed that baby #2 should have Russell as his middle name (each boy will have a grandfather’s name for the middle)
We don’t have other male family names to draw from. :(
My husband has had one name offering from the very beginning. Only one. Miles. (He’s a big fan of Miles Davis)
I’m not sure how I feel about Miles Russell Schaff. Too many sss sounds. And Schaff sounds so close to “shaft” which tends to pull in the possibility of names that sound like porn stars. (Harry Schaff…..
We aren’t tied down to biblical names, but they do sound right with Noah. I’d like a name that doesn’t skyrocket to the top 10 like Noah did. A classic, traditional name.
Some on my list have been
Eli Russell/Noah and Eli
Caleb Russell/Caleb and Eli
Jeremiah Russell (husband says there are too many syllables in Jeremiah)/
Wilson Russell Schaff (I love the name Will/Wil but William is so popular./Noah and WIl
Quinn (was on my list and now off b/c it looks like there are so many girl Quinns out there)
I love the name Silas (but Silas Schaff is too many ss sounds)
Thank you for your help!

The first thing I notice is that you guys broke a three-generation naming tradition. I’ll bet I’m not the only one hungry for details. My mother-in-law and father-in-law broke a many-generations naming tradition when they named my husband Paul, and it caused…issues. (And I’m so grateful to them for weathering those issues so I wouldn’t have to do it a generation later.)

Anyway! On with business! Since you like Silas but it’s too much S, I wonder if Simon would work better. Simon Schaff, Simon Russell Schaff, Noah and Simon. I like it.

It’s too bad Miles Davis’s surname also ends in S, or that would be a good option. But maybe it’s a good option anyway? Davis Schaff, Davis Russell Schaff, Noah and Davis.

(I was going to suggest Milo, but then thought of your porn caution and “Mile O’Schaff” and changed my mind. Ahem.)

I think I might avoid M-names anyway, because of the MRS initials. And I-names, because of IRS.

I like the sound of Benjamin Schaff. Benjamin Russell Schaff, Noah and Ben.

Baby Name to Discuss: Junuh

Melissa writes:

I’m having a bit of a name dilemma & am wondering if you and/or your readers might be able to help. I found a name that I really like, but I’m wondering if giving a baby a rare name is almost worse than a popular name in a way? I like the name Junuh really well for a boy (pronounced exactly like Judah, but with an “n”), but the only place I’ve ever heard the name was in a movie that I saw again recently. It is actually the character’s last name, but that’s what he goes by in the movie & the more everyone says it throughout the movie the more I like the name. Fortunately (for me), the movie wasn’t all that popular (or that good for that matter), so I don’t think people would automatically make the leap. I know we’re all in the search of the happy balance between ‘uncommon’ but still ‘familiar’. Is this name too far out of bounds? I feel like it sounds a bit familiar, because it is close to both Jonah & Judah, but I like it better than both of those. These are my biggest concerns:

1. Does it sound like something I just made up? (for the record my husband hates what he calls ‘makey-up’ names & for the most part I actually agree with him)

2. Does it sound like a girls name? because I really don’t like boy names that could possibly be mistaken for girls, which is really difficult since all boy names seem to go to the dark side these days, leaving us with VERY few original options. (since people aren’t familiar with it, will he go through his whole life with people thinking he’s a girl on paper?)

3. Will he always get, “you mean Jonah?” … “No, Junuh”. …. “Oh, like the month, but with an ‘a’ on the end?”

Anyways, sorry for the saga, but I would appreciate it you have a chance to give me some feedback. I love your website & am absolutely addicted to finding the perfect baby name, & find it a huge relief that I’m not the only one. For the record, my husband & I are starting to try for babies, so if you have more pressing naming issues, I completely understand! Thanks Swistle!

To me, it sounds like a girl name and/or a made-up name. Not only is the “-a” ending typically feminine, but June is an established girl name and Juno is a major goddess. The movie Juno only reinforced the feminine connection. Another problem is that Junuh looks like it could be pronounced Junnuh.

The only boyish connection I can think of is to “Junior.” I think I would either use Judah or think of another name.