Baby Boy Lox-with-an-F, Brother to Harlow and Violet

Dear Swistle,

It’s still early in my pregnancy, but I’m starting to worry about my husband and I not agreeing on a name for our baby boy due in October. We have two girls and our girl naming style is much more in sync – if this last baby of ours would have been a girl, we had chosen the name Ivy.

Our boy naming styles couldn’t be different – I like both classic and nature inspired boy names. I can’t even describe my husband’s naming style, he seems to dislike the majority of boy names, is completely unfamiliar with naming trends and popularity, and I had to beg him for this list below. His top names are marked with an asterisk =

Reed
Cole
Uriah*
Archer
Jordan
Ezra*
Ethan
Jett*
Ronan
Noah
Easton
Dash
Maverick
Grayson

I’ll go ahead with my list next =

Hudson
Charles* (after my husband)
Luke* – my cousin has a Luke or this would be my #1
Everett
Samuel
Wright*
Clark
Benjamin
Theodore*
Abram
Rowen*

And names we both like are as follows =

Jeremiah (I’m bothered by this lacking a nickname I like)
Archer (I’m worried this could be confusing with Harlow as we often call her Har, am I wrong?)
Evander (My husband wants to use the nickname Evan which I dislike)

Our last name is Lox with a F (the animal) and our girls are Harlow and Violet. I have a few rules I’d like to hold strong to – no H or V names as I want my three children to have their own initial, and no names that have “low” or “et” endings. So that there throws out Hudson and Everett from my list, as much as I love them. Middle name will likely be Charles or Tucker, if Charles doesn’t work.

In my head, this baby is Rowen. I would even settle with Owen. Second best for me is Charlie after my husband Charles. My husband isn’t enthusiastic about anything really. I’m becoming extremely frustrated and my husband thinks we have all the time in the world to decide. So I’m hoping you can step in and perhaps recommend something we’ll both like or have advice for agreeing on a name together.

I appreciate your time,
Morganne “Lox”

 

I find the names Harlow and Rowen a little difficult to say together: the -rlow sound and the row- sound are allllmost the same, but then not QUITE, so my mouth gets confused. Then, those two names both have a unisex/surnamey sound, and seem to leave the name Violet stranded. And Rowen means “red-haired,” so with your surname it seems a little too descriptive. (I say all these things to make you feel better if you can’t use the name Rowen. If your husband comes around, then I say go for it.)

From your husband’s list, my definite favorite is Ezra. I think it’s great with the surname, great with the sibling names; I really like it. And it’s entirely possible I’m in a nitpicky mood this morning (I’m a little hung over from all the sugar I ate on Mother’s Day), but I see a ton of little things that bug me with the other names on his list: Ethan with your surname makes me think of Ethan Hawke; Reed with your surname makes me see Red _ox; Cole with your surname makes me think of “stone cold _ox”; Jett, Dash, and Maverick are all too nouny/cartoonish with the surname; the Avengers movies are too fresh in my mind for me to choose Ronan; Grayson could shorten to Gray and then you’d have Gray _ox; etc.

From your list, my favorites are Everett, Abram, Benjamin, and Theodore. Benjamin seems extra cute with your surname. Everett seems extra debonair with your surname, and keep in mind that the “no repeating endings” is your own preference and you can override that if you want to for a name that feels worth it. I don’t like the way Charles repeats the -harl- of Harlow. Wright seems difficult to pull off in regular life; it seems like it would be heard confusingly as the word Right, and I am pre-tired of the Mr. Right jokes.

Ezra and Everett strike me as just similar enough to hope for compromise. Do either of you like Elliot (maybe too many shared sounds/letters with Violet) or Emmett?

The repeating -ar- sound of Harlow and Archer does bug me, but everything seems to bug me today. I think if I encountered the sibling group Harlow, Violet, and Archer in real life, I would not give it one second’s thought.

I too dislike the nickname Evan for Evander, even though I like the name Evan. It feels to me as if it doesn’t WORK: EH-ven is not similar enough to the ee-VAN of Evander. It’s more like a coincidence, the way Edith is present in the name Meredith and yet I wouldn’t use it as a nickname.

It’s a little maddening to me that he likes Ronan and Noah, and you like Rowen and Owen, and yet there is no agreement. They are SO CLOSE. In fact, can you spin it that way to him? Owen is all the same sounds as Noah, but rearranged. I know that’s not all there is to a name, but sometimes reducing a name to its sounds can help someone reconsider a name they haven’t given enough consideration to.

I feel dissatisfied with the whole list of names the two of you agree on. I’m glad there’s a lot of time left, because I think it’s going to be needed. Sometimes an unenthusiastic husband with no particular naming style and not much knowledge about names can be persuaded to do the plan where YOU make a list and HE marks the ones he likes from that list, and then you two agree on one of those names he marked. (Ask me how I know.) And although he has some Cool Guy Names on his list, once I cross those out his style looks at least ADJACENT to yours: his Grayson and Easton are similar to your Hudson; his Reed is similar to your Everett; his Noah isn’t far off from your Samuel. Archer and Clark, Ezra and Everett, Ronan and Rowen, Noah and Owen, Grayson and Hudson, Everett and Jett—I feel like there is HOPE here.

I would say you guys seem to like the -ar- sound (Harlow, Charles, Archer, Clark), the long-O sound (Harlow, Violet depending on how you pronounce it, Noah, Owen, Ronan, Rowen, Theodore depending on how you pronounce it), and possibly the D sound (Reed, Jordan, Dash, Hudson, Theodore, Evander) and the K sound (Cole, Maverick, Luke, Clark). You are both at least on board with biblical names (Noah, Ethan, Uriah, Luke, Samuel, Benjamin, Abram). Neither of you minds a one-syllable first name with the one-syllable surname (Reed, Cole, Jett, Dash, Luke, Wright, Clark); neither of you minds noun/word names with the noun/word surname (Violet, Ivy, Reed, Archer, Jett, Dash, Maverick, Wright, Rowen).

I think if I were you I might work on him with your own favorites, or I might start again at the beginning of the baby name book looking for more names that seem to work with your shared preferences. I’d suggest you each mark the names on each other’s list that you feel more warmly toward, even if you wouldn’t want to use those names, and then make a combined list of those names; see if there is anything those names have in common. For example, if from your list he felt most warmly toward Hudson and Clark, and from his list you felt most warmly toward Easton and Grayson, I might point you in the direction of surname names. If on the other hand he chose Everett and Theodore from your list and you chose Reed from his, I might suggest looking for gentleman names.

Some options to consider, if you haven’t already:

Alfred
Alistair
Arthur
Barnaby
Calvin
Daniel
Davis
Dean
Edmund
Elijah
Ezekiel
George
Gideon
Gilbert
Grant
Griffin
Ian
Jasper
Joel
Josiah
Jude
Lincoln
Louis
Malachi
Malcolm
Miller
Nolan
Oliver
Paul
Roman
Simon
Wade
Warren
Wesley
Wilson

 

 

 

Name update:

Good morning Swistle,

Our sweet baby boy arrived just in time for Halloween! I appreciated the responses from you and your readers very much and reflected on them many times through out my pregnancy. We were never able to come up with new names not already mentioned and baby was almost a Benjamin or Ezra!

However, towards the end of my pregnancy, Daddy decided he wanted the baby to be named after him! I was smitten of course! So here is our very own Charles Rowen – baby Charlie. He mostly goes by Monster for now, being born on October 30th and being the boob monster he is… but I think Charlie fits him perfectly.

Thank you again for your help in naming our baby boy –
Morganne

16 thoughts on “Baby Boy Lox-with-an-F, Brother to Harlow and Violet

  1. Joanna Maria

    Remy could be a nice nickname option for Jeremiah.

    Both Ezra and Eli (mentioned above) are wonderful ideas and sound really well with your surname.

    A few more options that I like with your last name and your girls’ names (and Tucker or Charles as a middle name):

    Alexander Lox (Harlow, Violet & Alexander)
    Eric Lox (Harlow, Violet & Eric)
    Frederick Lox (Harlow, Violet & Frederick) – I find these double FF initials quite cool!
    Gavin Lox (Harlow, Violet & Gavin)
    Gregory Lox (Harlow, Violet & Gregory)
    Graham Lox (Harlow, Violet & Graham)
    Leonard Lox (Harlow, Violet & Leonard)
    Spencer Lox (Harlow, Violet & Spencer)
    Sullivan Lox (Harlow, Violet & Sullivan)
    Zachary Lox (Harlow, Violet & Zachary)

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  2. A

    If he like Ronan and Noah and you like Owen and Rowan then what about Nolan? That seems like a good compromise.

    Harlow, Violet, and Nolan

    Nolan Charles “Lox”
    Nolan Tucker “Lox”

    Very handsome on its own but also fits well with his sisters’ names

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  3. Kanah

    Why not Tucker for the first name?

    Also, I do see some overlap in your styles. There are several Biblical names on your list. So, maybe look there? You may find you like names like Canaan or Judah….

    Also, I suggest Rider/Ryder and Holden.

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  4. Sargjo

    Another commenter beat me to it-I love Remy for Jeremiah! I do think your husband (like many husbands) is trying to reach for a name that might fall in what I call “Teenage Hero” category. Like an “edgy” name that COULD be a cartoon character, or a sci-fi character. Basically, could you find it in a comic book?

    This is also why Remy might not fly for him because it’s a softer, timeless name. But Remy for, say, Remington would. Remington (L)ox is a hero for sure. It makes me wonder about Mal/Malcolm for you. Or Baz/Sebastian. Names that have a more classic long form and a snappy nickname. I think Swistle recently did a whole brainstorming post on this!

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  5. The Mrs.

    Evander could have the nickname of Van. And THAT is cool!
    Harlow, Violet, and Van. Van Charles “Lox”.

    Uriah and Reed makes me think of Ulysses. He is traditional and very historical.

    Jeremiah could go by Ry.
    Harlow, Violet, and Ry. Jeremiah Charles “Lox”.

    Jeremiah reminds me of Jericho. Rico is an easy nickname.

    Theodore could have the nickname of Reed! The sounds are all there! A charming compromise, and each parent could call him the name they prefer. Theodore “Reed” Charles “Lox”.

    Here’s a from-left-field suggestion: Davis.
    Davis Charles “Lox”. Davey is sweet for when he’s younger.
    Harlow, Violet, and Davis.

    Best wishes and congrats!

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    1. avatozeke

      Yes, The Mrs.!!! I came here to suggest Evander, nickname Van, too. It has a completely different sound and ending than Harlow and Violet (Rowen has the same long-O as Harlow), works well with your last name, is uncommon and refreshing, AND both of you like it.

      Of Swistle’s suggestions, I like Warren and Malcolm best for your sibset. They complement Harlow and Violet perfectly and need no nicknames. Good luck!

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  6. Courtney

    Oh, I love Rowan! (But I’m biased because that’s my #3’s name)

    If you like nature-themed names, what about Calder (OK that’s #3s middle name). But it means “rocky water”

    I like Nolan, too, as a good compromise

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    1. Genevieve

      Jasper, Calvin, Nolan, Ezra, all seem to me to fit your sibset and last name very well.
      I’ll also suggest Graham, Nathan, Logan, Marcus, Gabriel. Maybe Lucas since that isn’t identical to your cousin’s child’s name.

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  7. Jean C.

    I love Evander, and it seems to bridge the style gap between Violet and Harlow flawlessly. If you can get your husband on board for Van, I think this would be a great name (or even Vander). Vander reminds me of another nickname I really like—Xander or Xan for Alexander, which I think would fit here too.
    I also like the suggestion of Nolan (or the similar Logan or Roland) as a great compromise between your styles.
    Of the biblical names, I feel like Benjamin and Samuel are the best fits with your style. Maybe Silas.
    I can’t help but think an old fashioned surname might fit well. Instead of the trendier Grayson or Hudson, maybe Wallace? That gives you the awesome nickname Wally.

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  8. Erinms

    I love Archer! Archer Charles Lox-with-an-F is just absolute perfection.

    I have also always had a soft spot for Charlie.

    Also love Jasper Charles.

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  9. StephLove

    I really like Jeremiah and it’s on your mutual list. If all that’s holding you back is a nickname, how about initials? Think J.D., J.J., J.T., etc. using whatever middle you like best with those letters.

    I also like Reed, Ezra, Everett, Luke, Benjamin, and Theodore in this sibling set.

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  10. Maggie2

    What about Leander? Similar to Evander, but without the Evan. Anders or Andy could be a cute nickname. Leander Charles (L)ox.
    My favorite from your list is Benjamin. Just so incredibly cute with your last name, and a name that works equally well for toddlers, teens and adult men.

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