Laura writes:
I have been a regular reader of your blog since I became pregnant with my second child, a girl. I am now 38 weeks along, and a wrench of indeterminate size has been thrown into our baby-naming process.
Background: At least five years ago, my husband and I fell in love with the name Sophie, were we ever to have a daughter. It is the only girl’s name we have ever agreed on. It would have been our 3 yo son Liam’s name if he’d been a girl, without question or hesitation. We like the meaning of the name, and far prefer it to the more popular Sophia, and we think it works nicely as a sib-set with Liam, whose middle name is Asher (our last name sounds like cah-NOOD-son). With this pregnancy I have been considering alternatives, because for some reason I’ve become bored with Sophie. It feels faded to me, like a shade of paint that I don’t love, but now it’s too late and too much work to repaint the room (or something like that.) I considered and liked Alma, Ada, Adelaide, Stella, and Eliza – a derivative of my own middle name, Elizabeth, and also the name of many of my ancestors. My husband only likes Alma from this list (for awhile we had decided on the first/middle Sophie Alma – but that eventually seemed just too old-lady for me and, I thought, not a good match for the more modern-sounding Liam Asher). My husband likes Sierra and Gabriella, neither of which I really like. Just last week it seems, we finally settled once again on Sophie for a first name and my own last name for her middle name (rhymes with Pam). “Settled” being a good word for it….
Wrench: last weekend, my mom – in her mid-60s – announced that she is getting remarried (she and my dad divorced about 1 year ago after a long, long separation). The man she is marrying, whom we have all known for a long time, has a grown-up niece he is extremely close to – named Sophie. He thinks of her like his daughter. While it is unlikely we will interact with his Sophie very much, since she lives across the country, I feel like somehow naming my daughter Sophie is a tribute to him, which is NOT the message I want to send to her or to my dad or to anyone in our family. And even though we have been secretive about our baby name choice, out of the blue my mom suggested Sophie to me a few months ago – which makes me even further not want to use it. Since absolutely nobody saw a marriage proposal coming, including, I think, my mom – I didn’t have to consider this before. Now I feel like just when I had come around to choosing Sophie again, there is a strong reason not to use it. Even my husband said today, “Do you still like the name Eliza for a first name? I guess I could get used to that…”. We have less than 3 weeks before our baby is born. Help! What suggestions do you have for naming our little girl?
Thank you SO much
It’s hard to give up a name you’ve been committed to for so long and start the selection process all over again—but if you were feeling bored with the name, this engagement might be exactly the merciful kick needed to let you start fresh. I definitely don’t think you NEED to start over: I think we could find ways for you to make it clear that this was not a tribute (“Yes, what a funny coincidence! We’ve had this name picked out for years—since way before Liam!”)—but if the problems with the name Sophie have piled up too high now, we are ready to roll up our sleeves and find something new.
I think Eliza is so wonderful, I almost want to leave my sleeves where they are. It’s perfect with Liam. It’s perfect with the middle name. I love the family-name connection. It’s one of my own favorite names: I love how flexible it is, working well for sassy girls or shy girls or smartypants girls or sunshiney girls or goth girls.
Another place to look is other names with the same meaning as Sophie (I’m using the “Intelligence & Wisdom” section of Baby Names Made Easy: The Complete Reverse-Dictionary of Baby Names). Minerva is one of my favorites, and I see Alma on the list. I’m not sure if Liam and Alma share too many letters/sounds—or if that’s the very thing that makes them work together.
Or we can see if we can find something between your list and your husband’s list. You like Stella and he likes Gabriella, so Ella might be a possibility. Liam and Ella.
Or I wonder if you’d like Annabel: it has the -el sound and some of the frilliness of Gabriella, but with Anna to fit it more with Ada and Eliza. Liam and Annabel. I love that almost as much as Eliza.
Or Fiona. Liam and Fiona. Both have a Celtic style and that same I-sound, and the “fee” sound in Fiona is reminiscent of the “fee” sound in Sophie.
Or Isla, or Iris. These remind me a little of Alma, but more current.
I know a sibling set named Liam and Nora and I think it sounds really good together. Very similar styles without seeming over-matched.
Starting with Sierra, but trying to bring it closer to your style: Sabrina. Liam and Sabrina.
Or Clara. Liam and Clara.
Or Cecily. Liam and Cecily.
Starting with Gabriella, but trying to bring it closer to your style: Genevieve. Liam and Genevieve. Evie for short: Liam and Evie.
Or I love Eva anyway, but especially with Liam: Liam and Eva.
Name update! Laura writes:
Hi Swistle – thank you so much for your help and your readers’ advice. Triangulating among many wonderful suggestions (Eliza, Cecily, Sierra, Stella, Ella, Gabriella, Annabel, and Eva, to name a few), our daughter Ellery Sophia “Pam” “Cahnoodson” was born November 18. The name Ellery came to me in a dream when I was first pregnant. I mentioned it to my husband at the time and he was like, what kind of name is that?! I discounted it totally, but mentioned it again when I was 40 wks pregnant and he suddenly liked it for being unique and having a cool meaning, “grove of alder trees”. We kept going back and forth between Ellery and Sophie, Ellery and Sophie, asking a bunch of close friends what they thought, and trying to discern a middle name. Intellectually I had finally settled upon Sophie, but within moments of meeting her, I knew that wasn’t her name! It just didn’t fit! I was in disbelief that meeting the baby would really help us choose, but now I would seriously urge anyone who can’t decide on a name to hold on to the choices, and see what the baby looks like before picking one. It was suddenly so clear…I proposed Ellery Sophia to my husband within 5 minutes of delivery. (I don’t know why, but previously it hadn’t occurred to me we could keep both names if we went with Sophia; Ellery Sophie being too rhymy). Although we didn’t really want to give her four names, we just could not let go of any of them. 24 hours later we shared her name with the world. She is a beautiful and happy girl, and big brother Liam just wants to give her kisses all the time. Her unofficial nickname in the house is “little Elle” and Liam is “big L”. Thanks again!
I love Eliza and think it sounds fabulous with Liam. I think the niece might be the perfect push to let Sophie go. From the way you describe it, like a paint color you’re tired of, it sounds like you wanted to choose something else, but felt like you needed a good reason because you had invested so much time loving it? Anyway, just wanted to give Eliza some love if you’re on the fence about it. It’s one of my favorites lately, and I think she would love to connection to your name.
I’m gonna second the suggestion of Eliza, it’s a beautiful name and it gives your little girl a special connection to her mom. Plus it goes really well with Liam.
I like Ada and Ella from your list, and from the suggestions list: Annabel, Ella & Fiona.
How about Chloe? It’s reminiscent of Sophie to me. Or Daphne perhaps?
Not sure if you are aware of this but Stella paired with Liam would give you two of Tori Spellings children’s names. There are some very nice suggestions already. But a few more ideas are Elsie, Elsa, Phoebe or Zoe, Alana, Josephine, Rosie, Laney, Adela, Adelle. I too prefer Sophie over Sophia. I was in the same boat of having a name in mind that I was afraid to use bcause of being way too old lady. I didn’t use it but still love the name. A lot. I do not feel Alma is old lady as it is widely used in Latin America. But then again, the name I like is also more used within Latin America too! Good luck and congrats
Well, Eliza is just down-right fabulous.
But if you want more options to toss around, here are some other forms of Elizabeth:
Bess
Betina
Beth
Eliesse
Elissa
Elle (sounds so great with Liam)
Elspeth
Elsie
Helsa
Ilsa
Libby
Liesel (nice with your surname)
Lilibeth
Lisette
If you want other ideas outside the ‘Elizabeth’ category, do you like: (some have Greek influence, like Sophie)
Cecilia
Moriah
Acacia
Amarilla
Astoria
Calista
Cassandra
Chloe
Circe
Colette
Corina
Daria
Delia (DEE-lee-ah)
Gretchen
Marcella
Melinda
Philomena
Rhoda
Selina
Sophronia
Theodora
Vanessa
Veronica
Zelia
And besides all those… do you care for:
Olivia
Amelia
Victoria
All the best to you and your growing family! Excited to hear what you choose!
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Josephine is a good suggestion. You could use Josie as a nickname, which is sort of like Sophie, but if you are really tired of Sophie, maybe anything that sounds remotely like Sophie is out of the question.
It sounds to me like Sohpie is just not the name meant for this daughter. Had my daughter, my oldest child been a boy, I would have named her Max / Maxwell, but by the time my son was born 3 years later, I just wan’t feeling Max / Maxwell anymore. I know how you feel.
If you love, love, love Sophie – use it and say that you’ve always loved the name.
If you loved it but no longer do then it’s exciting, you can go explore and find a new name to love ;)
I have to say, Liam Asher is such a wonderful name.
Liam and Alma Elizabeth would sound so cute together.
Some other ideas:
Liam and Sarah
Liam and Annabel
Liam and Adeline – Liam and Addy?
Liam and Amelia – Liam and Milly/Mila/Ammy/Lia/Mia?
Liam and Alice
Liam and Evelyn
Liam and May
Liam and Rose
Liam and Elise/Edith/Elsa/Esme/Eve
fiona & eliza are my favorites. i’d do eliza now & shelf fiona for maybe later. LIAM & ELIZA are darling!!!
Ever since I read The History of Love, I’ve liked the name Alma.
I have a Sophie, and of course would advocate for it, but understand where your hesitations come from. One name I felt I couldn’t use for our second daughter (because it sounds a bit too close) is Phoebe. Love it. Phoebe!
Or Eliza is also fab.
I do love Sophie with Liam, and it’s my favorite choice of the names you listed in your letter. I also like Ada a lot. The others all have some thing I don’t love about them– Stella and Liam give me the Tori Spelling connection, Alma is, in my opinion, too many similar letters to Liam, and for whatever reason I think Eliza is TOO clearly a derivative of your name that it just doesn’t jive with me (I am also not a fan of juniors). Because these are all completely subjective, personal feelings of mine, please take them with a grain of salt. But there they are.
What about Selma? Selma Elizabeth? It’s almost as if you were to take Alma and Sierra from your list and your husband’s, and push them together to make a totally legitimate yet underused name. And I love it paired with Liam: Liam and Selma!
– Liam and Lorna.
– Liam and Nadia. (hope is also a nice meaning)
– Liam and Eloise.
Our oldest is Liam, and a name that I loved for his little sister but couldn’t convince the hubby on was Willa–I love how they sound totally different but are both forms of William. We ended up with an Iris, which Swistle suggested too, and while I love the name I don’t necessarily feel like it’s a “match” with Liam.
What about Sonya (or Sonia)? It’s a diminutive form of Sophia. Liam and Sonya.